Who's worried about the ammo situation?

Ammo shortage?

  • My world will end, I am not prepared.

    Votes: 14 3.5%
  • I may be inconvenienced.

    Votes: 81 20.2%
  • I'll be OK as long as it doesn't last more than a year.

    Votes: 128 31.9%
  • I can weather this, no problem.

    Votes: 178 44.4%

  • Total voters
    401
bought a brick today of 22, 23.99$, got home thinking sweet, good score, not a bad price. Got home and noticed it is only 400 rds. :mad:

when did that happen? AE 36 gr hp.

Many years ago. You gotta get out more, bud. And buy ammo more often.;)


I think Federal is the only one doing the 400 bricks, but maybe I need to get out more as well.
 
Many years ago. You gotta get out more, bud. And buy ammo more often.;)


I think Federal is the only one doing the 400 bricks, but maybe I need to get out more as well.

The American eagle brick has always had 400 rounds. I remember when they first came out in Canada (we had domestic 22lr back then) they were significantly cheaper than the Imperial or wild cats back then. It took only one purchase to figure out how they did it. 10 rounds less per box.
 
The American eagle brick has always had 400 rounds. I remember when they first came out in Canada (we had domestic 22lr back then) they were significantly cheaper than the Imperial or wild cats back then. It took only one purchase to figure out how they did it. 10 rounds less per box.

maybe just the 36gr?

last brick of 40 gr leads, had 500 in it. I bought that maybe like a year or 2 ago.
 
My only worry, is that if people dont shut up about it, that its never gonna end. People keep crying that the sky is falling, and every dim wit runs out and buys 2500 more rounds of .22LR
 
I've been stockin up on stuff for a couple months now, every payday I pick up a few boxes of different calibers and usually a brick or 100 pack of 22. I've noticed that .22 is starting to thin out and I havent been able to find any 12 gauge buckshot in the Winchester valuepacks.

edit: I'm a clueless idiot
 
I just got back into shooting in November, have hardly any ammo, but I'm not worried. If I can't buy it for a reasonable price, I'll go do something else. I still get to shoot at work occasionally, so it's not a huge deal.
 
The reloaders at my range are complaining they can't find what they need but in GTA there only seems to be a shortage on .22LR. Went into Bass Pro yesterday and not a brick in the store. Just little 50 packs. Shelves were pretty full of everything else though.
 
Is the ammo shortage winding down? Judging by their analysis of Alliant Techsystems’ stock, KeyBanc Capital Markets seems to think so. The Wall Street Transcript quotes VP and Equity Research Analyst, Michael F. Ciarmoli:
First, on the military side, with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq winding down, we expect there to be less demand for ammunition in the field. We also couple that with the budget pressures hitting the Pentagon and what will likely be force structure cuts, specifically to the Army and Marine Corps. We are seeing curtailments of training. We think that’s all going to hit military ammo demand and production, and we see ammo funding potentially falling by as much as 40% to 50% over the next five years… as we start to see more normal buying practices, or just a cooling off of some of these legislative concerns, that will pressure some of their commercial ammunition revenues as well.
From your spreadsheet to God’s ears!
 
I used to run a gun club and RO for about 15 years. Taken a bit of a break and coming back to the sport after a 5 year break and I'm definatelly noticing some changes and overall trends.

WW 1 & 2 old time ammo seems to be coming to an end on the surplus market. 303 was scarce but still findable 5 years ago but seems to be non-existant now. 8mm is equally hard to come by. Best I could source was x4 what the price used to be and the head stamps are getting toward the ' modern ' era, ie: 1950's. Other old time stuff is just plain gone except for low end factory stuff like Cellier and Belliot so x 4 or 5 the old sweet surplus prices.

If you follow the time line 1952-55 is when most Nato countries started shifting to 308, and most of our related allies started making the shift also . So, when we see 1951-2 headstamps on surplus 8mm, you can kinda guess that you've only got 2-5 years of surplus left and then it's gone and gone for good. 1952-57 put most people on one side or the other of the Cold War fence. Thus you either went 7.62 x 39 AK, or you went 7.62 x 51 and the FN-FAL. 7.62 x 39 is cheap and plentiful on the surplus market but don't count on seeing alot of 308 because technically it was never declared redundant. Alot of gpmg's still run it even though it's mostly 5.56 on the ground. As such stocks overall, if they ever get sold off, will be low.

Checking a 4 year old Shotgun News revealed some interesting things also. South Africa, Israel, South Korea, Turkey, used to be pretty big players in the surplus ammo markets. Most recent issue of SN I picked up, not sure i saw a single one of them mentioned. Might have been a glitch, but could also be a bit of a trend. SA's arms industry like most of the country is falling apart. SK is probably keeping stockpiles high '' just in case ''. Same goes for Israel and Turkey.

Overall we're lucky in Canada to have norc stuff to keep a bit of a lid on prices, but, how long that lasts is questionable. They got booted from the States for being stupid. They seemed to have learned a lesson on that. But, an aggressive China can only play bull in the china shop for so long before they step on to many toes. Cutting off high profit ammo sales would hurt someone's Swiss bank account, but wouldn't overly effect bi-lateral trade, so expect to be the sacrificial lamb if #### hits the fan.

When in doubt, go old school rules. Practice hard with 22, finish with a box or 2 of your main or duty caliber to stay sharp.

Overall though I think we need to get used to the idea that prices are going to be going up because they just will. Mil Serp in non Warsaw Pact countries is close to being over so the days of bargain ammo are close to being at an end.
 
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