Why a pcp over a low velocity .22 rimfire ?

boxhitch said:
Air guns have a different appeal in the US than in Canada
iirc in the US a 'firearm' propels a projectile by explosion or 'fire' , a sane definition
Up here, a firearm can be almost anything that throws an object, and they get listed together in rules and regs
In some cases a Daisy Red Ryder gets lumped in with hi-power hi-capacity big danger wmd black rifles
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That's very true.

Some of my PCP's can launch a .22 projectile about ~1000 fps. They are very capable machines, yet not bound to the same laws that firearms are.
 
grauhanen said:
This is true. But it's important to keep things in perspective. In Canada a BB gun gets lumped in with any other firearm -- when it's used in the commission of an offence. For example, if someone were to rob a bank with a Daisy Red Ryder he would be facing armed robbery charges just as if he had used a derringer or a Cooey single shot .22 rimfire, or a 12 gauge shotgun. Same thing if it was used where firearms can't be used, such as in the back yard of a suburban house. The bottom line is that if such an airgun is used in the commission of a crime, it's treated as any other firearm.

On the other hand, as a sub-500fps airgun not requiring a PAL, anyone over 18 years of age can buy and possess it. They are exempt from the safe storage and transportation requirements that apply to non-restricted or restricted firearms. Of course common sense safety should be practiced as always.
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Well said many people don' t understand how this works,kelly
 
KDX said:
From my limited experience with it so far, my Daystate Red Wolf .177cal is the quietest air rifle I have ever shot. The pellet hitting the target is the loudest thing about shooting it. It's not using a lot of air and there is no mechanical noise as it uses a solenoid instead of a hammer and valve (from what I understand).

edit to add...I would have looked at one of these but they weren't available when I bought mine. If you go to the 8:40 mark on the video it will give you an idea of how quiet the .177cal is.

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But if you go to 3:55, you’ll hear him say “This rifle has a heck of a bark, and I strongly suggest using a silencer...”
 
I would head over to the Canadian Airgun Forum and look for a used one. Support is awesome from Rachel at Airforce USA if ever needed, or our community of course. ��
 
kthomas said:
That's very true.

Some of my PCP's can launch a .22 projectile about ~1000 fps. They are very capable machines, yet not bound to the same laws that firearms are.
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Any airgun shooting above 500 fps and 4.2 ft/lbs is subject to the same laws as its respective firearm, rifles = non restricted and pistols = restricted.
 
kodiakjack said:
But if you go to 3:55, you’ll hear him say “This rifle has a heck of a bark, and I strongly suggest using a silencer...”
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KDX has the Red Wolf, that video is of the Wolverine.
- This been said, any airgun with a un-shrouded barrel will get louder as you push velocity up.
- It depends what you are comparing it to. A Steyr LG110 in 177 @ 800fps sounds (to me ear) about the same as CB Short. Or slightly louder than a T25 staple-gun
 
sillymike said:
KDX has the Red Wolf, that video is of the Wolverine.
- This been said, any airgun with a un-shrouded barrel will get louder as you push velocity up.
- It depends what you are comparing it to. A Steyr LG110 in 177 @ 800fps sounds (to me ear) about the same as CB Short. Or slightly louder than a T25 staple-gun
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Yeah, I realize the featured gun isn’t the wolverine, I was just responding to his comment about the bolded part. I thought perhaps, in accordance with the hosts comments at 3:55, maybe the video simply wasn’t demonstrating the volume very realistically.
 
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