why are over and unders so expensive?

They basically have two of everything, must work in unison, and point to the same location.
 
You can get some bargain o/u shotguns, the Baikal comes to mind...

But, if you want a high quality work of art, then you're going to pay...

I recently picked up a Beretta Perennia SV10 III because it was on sale. For me, it was a ONCE in a lifetime purchase...

There is NO comparison wrt quality when I compare my Beretta to the other shotguns in my inventory...

The SV10 is a beautiful gun!

Cheers
Jay
 
Doubles are not the end all be all, I do appreciate them but actually prefer a semi or pump. If a good double is out of your price range, you are not really missing out if the gun is to be used for hunting. You can find quality used O/U's in the $600 to $850 range, there are plenty.
 
moosehunt89 said:
hey all just a curiosity question but im wanting to buy a over and under an dont understand why they are so expensive. Anyone able to answer that for me?
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They're not.
I've got a Baikal IZ-94 O/U 12 gauge/.308 Win that is very tough, dependable and accurate that I paid around $650 for a few years back.
The .308 rifle barrel is capable of 1 MOA @ 100 yds.
Great gun for mixed game hunting.
Have a Leupold 2-7x33mm scope mounted with Warne QD rings on top that I can remove in seconds when I'm just bird hunting.
The scope and Warne mounts holds ZERO really well and when you put the scope back on it's DEAD-ON without having to re-sight.
 
sunray said:
It's all about regulating the barrels so the patterns hit the same place. Same reason double rifles are expensive.
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If both barrels are rifle barrels regulation to the same POI is an issue.
I have Baikal MP-221 SxS 45-70 with barrels that are pretty close to the same POI at 50 yards with the 405 grain Remington factory ammo.
The gun retails for just under $800.
The gun has a turn-screw that adjusts regulation and works pretty good once you get used to it.
If you change ammo you have to re-regulate.
If one or both are shotgun barrels I don't see an issue with regulation for the short practical ranges these guns are used at.
 
Gunoholic said:
If both barrels are rifle barrels regulation to the same POI is an issue.
I have Baikal MP-221 SxS 45-70 with barrels that are pretty close to the same POI at 50 yards with the 405 grain Remington factory ammo.
The gun retails for just under $800.
The gun has a turn-screw that adjusts regulation and works pretty good once you get used to it.
If you change ammo you have to re-regulate.
If one or both are shotgun barrels I don't see an issue with regulation for the short practical ranges these guns are used at.
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This is where low quality comes into play on some brands. Regulation becomes an issue if one or both barrels shoot 3 ft to the left or right or high or low of point of aim. And believe me, it happens.
 
moosehunt89 said:
hey all just a curiosity question but im wanting to buy a over and under an dont understand why they are so expensive. Anyone able to answer that for me?
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For the same reason anything is expensive, people are willing to pay it.

Quality and craftsmanship do play a large part in that though, as well as needing two of everything to build them.
 
Was shooting skeet tonight with a fellow shooting an "inexpensive" OU, a Mossberg Silver Reserve. Part way through the second round the bottom barrel quit working. When he took the barrels off the you could see the tip of the lower firing pin was gone. Plenty of reports of other Silver Reserves doing the same thing. While this can happen with a more expensive gun too, it is far less likely.

Quality costs, plain and simple
 
gunsaholic said:
This is where low quality comes into play on some brands. Regulation becomes an issue if one or both barrels shoot 3 ft to the left or right or high or low of point of aim. And believe me, it happens.
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Can't u return the gun if its off by 2 ft as long it's under warranty? And does this happen over time or right out of box?
 
MJ Kurupt said:
Can't u return the gun if its off by 2 ft as long it's under warranty? And does this happen over time or right out of box?
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I suppose you could but that's hardly the point. The point was that regulation is important on shotgun barrels and a whole lot of time isn't sepnt on this aspect on lower priced guns. Aside from this, lower priced guns often also suffer from poor firing pins, soft metal , failure to fire or double firing, safety/trigger issues or shooting loose after X number of rounds. If you only shoot a couple of hundred rounds a year, then maybe it's worth the gamble.
 
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O/U are hard to mass produce. They require a lot of hand fitting and are built to very tight tolerances. I have had many apart and the difference in the expensive guns and cheaper guns are pain as day. Machining is very low quality, fit is terrible, and steel is very soft . One brand of Turkish gun is very bad for cracked stocks. So in the shop on night we took off the stock, blued up all the steel and put the stock back on. Then removed it and checked contact, there was about 30 % contact between steel and wood, this causes pressure points and eventually cracks.
It goes on and on, with misfires, stuck choke tubes, selector switches that don’t work right, and some guns that just kick like a mule because they have no recoil management built in . To each their own , but I am kind of old fashion, when I by something new I expect it to work. For the high level of shooting I do cheaper guns won’t last .
 
I asked myself this question last year when I shot with my semi. This year I bought a used 682 o/u. I had to take it apart this weekend, and after seeing the guts of the thing the price makes a lot more sense. By far the most complicated firearm I've ever seen. Makes ARs look like a screwdriver.
 
There are a couple cheaper ones available, but I think you get what you pay for.
A lot of doubleguns are treated as art and have a lot of intricate work done on them. Most of these are never fired and are just show pieces
 
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