blasted_saber
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Why arent more rifles chambered in 7.62x39?
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blasted_saber
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Ya I couldnt find it either. Which sucks cause I'd of been interested in one.
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There is also the issue of european .30 bore size compared to .30 US bore size, there is only a couple of thou in it but it has scared some people off. i have an encore 15 inch barrel in 7.62x39 it was recomended that i only use .30 cal projectiles produced in the US through it. i have used russian surplus ammo but it gets hot real fast as its a slightly tighter bore.
Well how may AK47 are out there....all in 7.62x39, generally speaking. So there are a lot of rifles chambered in it. ... 
Why there are not a lot of North American rifles chambered in it..., well as someone else has said, it is close to the 30-30 and how many of those do we have?
I don't think it is a "spectacular" enough round to have a fair amount of rifles chambered in it in North America.
Why there are not a lot of North American rifles chambered in it..., well as someone else has said, it is close to the 30-30 and how many of those do we have?
I don't think it is a "spectacular" enough round to have a fair amount of rifles chambered in it in North America.
It's not popular in modern firearms for the same reason that 30-30 Win is not popular: it's a low power short range cartridge.
Also it requires a non-standard bolt head size which is a huge issue which only benchrest shooters are willing to deal with (6mm PPC is based on 220 Russian which is based on 7.62x39).
308 Win is a great all-rounder, 223 Rem is a great small game cartridge, 7.62x39 is a below average medium game short range cartridge.
Alex
Also it requires a non-standard bolt head size which is a huge issue which only benchrest shooters are willing to deal with (6mm PPC is based on 220 Russian which is based on 7.62x39).
308 Win is a great all-rounder, 223 Rem is a great small game cartridge, 7.62x39 is a below average medium game short range cartridge.
Alex
One problem is most of the surplus ammo has a heavy laquer coating which is no problem in a SKS but does cause problems in most other rifles.
Seeing as the SKS ejects so quickly the lacquer has far less opportunity to build in the chamber.
My AIA has the extraction problem as you just can't eject at the speed of a semi-auto but I think we have figured out a way to solve this.
Seeing as the SKS ejects so quickly the lacquer has far less opportunity to build in the chamber.
My AIA has the extraction problem as you just can't eject at the speed of a semi-auto but I think we have figured out a way to solve this.
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I guess because 20 cents a round is cheaper.
Where are you getting the .308 NC for 50 cents? Henry?
If .308 is commonly found for $10 per per 20 rounds I must be looking in the wrong places........I can't even find 30-30 at that price!
Norinco 7.62x51 NATO Ammunition
$260 for 520 rnds, free shipping (not sure what Henry offers)
Don't tell me you didn't pick up the m305/ammo deal
Where are you getting NC x39 for 20c/rnd? or are you quoting the surplus?
$260 for 520 rnds, free shipping (not sure what Henry offers)
Don't tell me you didn't pick up the m305/ammo deal
Where are you getting NC x39 for 20c/rnd? or are you quoting the surplus?
Yes Surplus. I don't have any rifles in 7.62X39 that I won't run surplus through for cheap plinking and I don't really mind cleaning them afterwords.
$260 with free shipping is a good deal and even with the tax at $291.20 it's not bad but it isn't 50 cents a round....more like 58 cents.
Still pretty good but way more then surplus.
Surplus is the answer to "why 7.62X39" in most cases.
$260 with free shipping is a good deal and even with the tax at $291.20 it's not bad but it isn't 50 cents a round....more like 58 cents.
Still pretty good but way more then surplus.
Surplus is the answer to "why 7.62X39" in most cases.
$260/520 is 50c/rnd. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE quotes after tax prices (EE excluded) given our stupid tax law. AB folks only pay 5% up to 15% in the Atlantic.
Cheapest lately on Surplus x39 was group buy at $195/1400=13.9c/rnd, great deal.
Reluctant to shoot corrosive through my XCR in case I don't have time to clean right away.
308 and x39 is apple to orange comparison. 308 has lots more pwr.
Cheapest lately on Surplus x39 was group buy at $195/1400=13.9c/rnd, great deal.
Reluctant to shoot corrosive through my XCR in case I don't have time to clean right away.
308 and x39 is apple to orange comparison. 308 has lots more pwr.
whitetailwoodsarcher
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actally i just ordered some 7.62x51 for 270 with taxes in and free shipping. if im not mistaken that is 52 cents a shot. NC. x39 is around 31 cents a round with shipping in and taxes nc. 308 has more range better balistics and more power. so why go down to x39 unless you shoot alot and alot of ammo.
whitetailwoodsarcher
CGN Regular
i dont know about that. id say its good up to 300m. you can still have enuff power to kill a 200 pound deer. if you hit it in the kill spot. but yes over 300m look at the 308/7.62x51.
Check out Elwood Epps for the Russian single shot break action.
They are in the $199 price range.
Get a 11 mm air rifle scope mount with it as a 3/8 mount is not quite big enough.
Why arent more rifles chambered in 7.62x39?
This makes a lot of sense for those of us who enjoy having one of everything and in every caliber, but most hunters are not. Most have a generic collection of one-size-fits-all hunting rifle,shotgun, and .22cal. Many of these boys are the .303 and 30.06 generation, shot these rifles as boys, and still have them now.
25 years ago Norinco sold a crap load of rifles and marketed them as Farmer's gun, handy rifles, and truck guns. They were made for consumer SKS. The biggest problem is that the bullet is too light. Sure it can take down a deer, but not enough energy for bigger animals. THe frame of mind is: just like a truck, get one that can do everything you need.
This makes a lot of sense for those of us who enjoy having one of everything and in every caliber, but most hunters are not. Most have a generic collection of one-size-fits-all hunting rifle,shotgun, and .22cal. Many of these boys are the .303 and 30.06 generation, shot these rifles as boys, and still have them now.
25 years ago Norinco sold a crap load of rifles and marketed them as Farmer's gun, handy rifles, and truck guns. They were made for consumer SKS. The biggest problem is that the bullet is too light. Sure it can take down a deer, but not enough energy for bigger animals. THe frame of mind is: just like a truck, get one that can do everything you need.
Because if you look at the ballistics performance of the 7.62x39 you'll find that it's on par with the "old" .30-30. And to see what folks think of modern hunting with such a "weak" performer you simply need to scan back through a few pages of discussion threads here in this forum.
Apparently they are making deer, moose and bear more stoutly than before or supplying them with armored fur or something....
Apparently they are making deer, moose and bear more stoutly than before or supplying them with armored fur or something....
Well for one thing if you hunt here in BC you never know what you will run into.
I was sitting watching a game trail up north of Prince George last fall and on my way to look at something else I found a grizz poo pile and it was over a foot across. No effin way will I run around up there with less than a 30-06. Even a 308 feels a little light. As well in deer country a 308 has far more punch and a good deal more range. If I had one it would be a range gun. Lots of small cartridges out there but that one would be the last one on my list Im afraid. Lots of predators here.
I was sitting watching a game trail up north of Prince George last fall and on my way to look at something else I found a grizz poo pile and it was over a foot across. No effin way will I run around up there with less than a 30-06. Even a 308 feels a little light. As well in deer country a 308 has far more punch and a good deal more range. If I had one it would be a range gun. Lots of small cartridges out there but that one would be the last one on my list Im afraid. Lots of predators here.
