why do IPSC people take disagreements so personally?

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hey all,

You know, something I noticed with SOME (i.e. definitely not all) IPSC people... A lot of them seem to take someone disagreeing or arguing with them very personally. To the point that a single argument about some single IPSC issue (be it stats calculations, ICS, match design, rule change, whatever) can sour their long term 'relationship' with the person in question. Why is that?

I can argue with someone, I can totally disagree with someone's position on issue A, I can think the person is being a total #### on issue A, but that doesn't affect what I think about that individual in general, or how much, or how little/etc I like/respect/etc him/her... I don't tie my ego to any one IPSC conversation or argument, most of the time I tend to agree to disagree, and life moves on..

Why do some people can't let that go, like that??

What do we think?
 
Could be that SOME IPSC shooters are VERY highly competative ( maybe TYPE A personalities) and very competative in all aspects of their lives. Any disagreement is to them, may be like a competition , they don't like to lose. IN EVERY ACTIVITY THERE WILL BE SOMEONE WITH A DIFFERENT PERSONALITY THAT MAY NO GET ALONG WITH OTHERS. Don't worry, it is not your problem , it is theirs. Enjoy the sport for what it gives to you.
 
One of the few lessons I've struggled to learn later in life is one that I missed in my youth.

"Not all people handle a forceful opinion or expression well. Tread lightly if you can't afford to offend."

Some people are easy to carry on an argumentitive (?) discussion with. They will debate the points, take note of your strong points, and skewer you on your weak points. Afterwords you can go out for a beer and all is well.

Some are less receptive.
 
I understand your point, but it's not just IPSC shooters.

Many people just have to win under any circumstances. My assumption is that they had a bad time adjusting through puberty and are still compensating.

Aircraft maintenance manuals and procedural manuals are normally very clear on specific points; this tends to alleviate interpretation and arguments. IMHO IPSC rules were originally written to ensure safe matches and the procedural points came later in bits & pieces. And you're right, there are lots of arguments.
 
Actually, I don't think it has much to do with IPSC shooters specifically. It's probably true that anyone drawn to competitive sport would automatically be a little more interested in winning...anything, but this is something I run into daily in my professional life as well as in IPSC. It's just people, and they come in all sorts of flavors, temperments and egos. It takes a certain type of person to consider an argument as an opportunity to find a clear and concise way to communicate or consider a view point rather than take it as a personal affront that simply must trigger one's emotional hot buttons.

Agree with me Omen, or I will be deeply offended!
 
The super serious shooters provide a lot of entertainment....
Especially the ones who get mad when poked fun at or are on the receiving end of some good ol' fashioned good natured ball bustin'....

I especially find it funny when after a run at a stage the super serious shooter walks up and examines a target which appears to have only one hole in it...:confused:
He searches and searches for the missing hole... It ain't there....
As he walks away the look of bewildered wonder on his face is contrasted by the peels of possible technical/mechanical excuses for that missing hole....
It's easy man.... you missed.
Big deal.... get over it... It makes you no less of a person... we all make mistakes... and Jesus still loves you.:)
 
Some people seem to take *questions* as *accusations*- No matter what tone of voice is used.

"Did you finish this task?" (Reason for Question- If they did not complete the task, you have time to do it)

Thier response "I got fricking busy, get off my back, I'm in the middle of doing something else":rolleyes:

Oddly, it is apparent to everyone ese that *they* are being unreasonable and disruptive, yet they often feel like they are the ones wronged.:confused:
 
This type of person is by no means limited to IPSC people. I think we have all seen this type of person since back in high school. The people who are over competitive, they are not happy unless they win and usually the only way is their way.

Whether it's trashing golf clubs after a poor shot or ending a friendship over a poker game these people are everywhere.

I always default to what my BB instructor said, "Come out to have fun and improve yourself, don't worry about the other s**t."

He is a wise man.
 
Duh....what does IPSC stand for again?

Some ppl really should lighten up and have fun. What's the point in shooting when you aren't having fun.
 
I run into this all over the place (my gf for one mwah hahahaha). We notice it in IPSC because we are involved in the sport that's all. These type of personalities are prevalent everwhere though, hell the millright at my work is a great example. the only way he can win arguments is by talking loud and having the last word. It's really funny actually.
 
Funny, I've rarely seen it in Cowboy Action Shooting!! It has happened on a rare occassion, maybe then, that's why Cowboy Action attracts alot of former IPSC shooters.
 
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