Time is very tight and dedicating the required amount to practice would simply kill the fun of just going to the range to shoot and not have a schedule to work to and a routine to master.
Mark
Why don't you compete?
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Time is very tight and dedicating the required amount to practice would simply kill the fun of just going to the range to shoot and not have a schedule to work to and a routine to master.
Mark
I enjoy competing on the odd occasion when I do because of the interesting people one meets and its an endless learning process.
I do it to have fun and with the understanding that someone has to finish last, usually me...
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- Prince Albert, Sk
I am the same, I used to use this range years ago but no more.
I keep up my membership just in case but I haven't heard of anything going on there ever for precision shooting.Like others have done I have a nice little spot that I can do my practice and load development without stopping for 5 minute waits and having to justify to nosy neighbors why I have so and so equipment and how much and where, and you get the idea.
Kind of a waste for a semi-custom rig but I can go out and enjoy shooting myself or if I decide I can bring guests.
500 meters at this range would be okay but it is limiting when you want to get better and practice reaching out.
Competing is kinda just a dream these days.Targets would be cheap as I wouldn't have many holes in em.
I keep up my membership just in case but I haven't heard of anything going on there ever for precision shooting.Like others have done I have a nice little spot that I can do my practice and load development without stopping for 5 minute waits and having to justify to nosy neighbors why I have so and so equipment and how much and where, and you get the idea.
Kind of a waste for a semi-custom rig but I can go out and enjoy shooting myself or if I decide I can bring guests.
500 meters at this range would be okay but it is limiting when you want to get better and practice reaching out.
Competing is kinda just a dream these days.Targets would be cheap as I wouldn't have many holes in em.
I'm fortunate that the Kamloops range is just over an hour away, and as Cyanide mentioned, the fees aren't that bad. I can usually manage 1 match per year, 2 or 3 if I'm lucky, but this year there are major renovations to be done on the home. My hobbies have to take a backseat until those are done. I'll be lucky to make it to the Farky this year.
On top of that, I desperately need practice, and I'm not getting any. This is reflected in my scores, but I'm having fun anyway and learning more every year.
That said, to anyone within driving range of Kamloops- you won't find a nicer, more welcoming bunch than the F-Class guys at the KTSA range. It's a very good place to enter competition, they make it easy, fun, and a real learning experience.
On top of that, I desperately need practice, and I'm not getting any. This is reflected in my scores, but I'm having fun anyway and learning more every year.
That said, to anyone within driving range of Kamloops- you won't find a nicer, more welcoming bunch than the F-Class guys at the KTSA range. It's a very good place to enter competition, they make it easy, fun, and a real learning experience.
I would like to compete, but it is like everyone else,,,4-5 hour drive one way and hard to get time off work when you work in the oilfiled in BC, AB, SK or wherever. I am lucky that i have 3 qquarters of lnad with hills so i am good for 1 mile shooting if i could and just dont have the time.
I do have a question though for the regular shooter is why are the F-class entry fee approx $300+ and the BR fee's much cheaper like approx $35? So that does get costly taking off a weekend of work + travel, hotel+Memberhsip+ammo + entry fee = thousands
I do have a question though for the regular shooter is why are the F-class entry fee approx $300+ and the BR fee's much cheaper like approx $35? So that does get costly taking off a weekend of work + travel, hotel+Memberhsip+ammo + entry fee = thousands
Bow-Hunter read my post on page 1 regarding costs.
Using the WCFCC as an example here is how a large ($300+) match breaks down (to some extent) on a 6 target range:
Paid Markers - 12 x $80-$100/day x 3 days
Butts Officer $150ish/day x 3 days.
Paid RO's and officials 2-3x $150ish/day/person x 3 days
Shirts $15-25 x No. Of competitors
BBQ - meat and accouterments don't come free
Range Rentals - varies
Trophies and plaques for range aggs, daily aggs, overall aggs.
Door prizes other than donated
Club or PRA makes some of the profit as does DCRA for sanctioned event.
Using the WCFCC as an example here is how a large ($300+) match breaks down (to some extent) on a 6 target range:
Paid Markers - 12 x $80-$100/day x 3 days
Butts Officer $150ish/day x 3 days.
Paid RO's and officials 2-3x $150ish/day/person x 3 days
Shirts $15-25 x No. Of competitors
BBQ - meat and accouterments don't come free
Range Rentals - varies
Trophies and plaques for range aggs, daily aggs, overall aggs.
Door prizes other than donated
Club or PRA makes some of the profit as does DCRA for sanctioned event.
I have to be honest and say i`m getting old,fat and lazy. I used to shoot rifle silhlouette and really enjoyed missing those damn chickens and turkeys.
Not really sure what clubs hold these shoots anymore, long range intrigues me though. I may set up something in one of the pastures and see what happens, just finished watching Top Shot and those moving targets at 4 or 500 yards looked like fun.
Not really sure what clubs hold these shoots anymore, long range intrigues me though. I may set up something in one of the pastures and see what happens, just finished watching Top Shot and those moving targets at 4 or 500 yards looked like fun.For many people who don't make their lives about something meaningful, sports is a great filler. It's an identity and something to be "about" . It gives people a reason to care about something in life, all the people I know who are into sports, that's about it for them. They generally do not do much else. Work, sports and family in that order. If you don't enjoy the label that your work gives you in life, then alot of people describe themselves using the sport in question. ie, "I'm a big hockey fan"
Sports: the voluntary completion of inconsequential goals.
Sports: the voluntary completion of inconsequential goals.
If a 5 hour drive is a stopper, the cost of gas is too much or the match fees.
If a 2 day weekend requires you to fix the car, cut the grass, clip the dog's nails, paint the eves.
If you have to go to the kids recital, go to a great aunt's 85th birthday.
If you have to see your lawyer, or go to the dentist,
Then... You are not a competitor and never will be.
NormB
If a 2 day weekend requires you to fix the car, cut the grass, clip the dog's nails, paint the eves.
If you have to go to the kids recital, go to a great aunt's 85th birthday.
If you have to see your lawyer, or go to the dentist,
Then... You are not a competitor and never will be.
NormB
Balancing family time, spare time, travel $$, match fees, membership fees, lodging etc seems to be one of the reasons people are staying away.
Another thing I see here is the perception of elitist jerks involved in the sport.
Then of course there is those that are just plain antisocial
Membership fees are reasonable. Try putting a kid into minor hockey for a few years and see how much it cost. After he out grows his equipment 3 years in a row, the cost of enrolling him in hockey is cheap.
Match fees usually cover to cost of marker and some prizes, the PRA makes very little off them.
Travel and lodging can be as expensive as staying at the Hilton, or staying at Motel 8, or camping. Shared travel and lodging make things cheaper but may not work for the antisocial.
Elitist jerks can be found anywhere. Some of them can be alright guys once you get to know them. You might find that they really are not elitist jerks, just jerks in general. Let's face it they put their pants on in the morning just like everyone else, one leg at a time. There are plenty of other guys on the range to talk to between relays.
Another thing I see here is the perception of elitist jerks involved in the sport.
Then of course there is those that are just plain antisocial
Membership fees are reasonable. Try putting a kid into minor hockey for a few years and see how much it cost. After he out grows his equipment 3 years in a row, the cost of enrolling him in hockey is cheap.
Match fees usually cover to cost of marker and some prizes, the PRA makes very little off them.
Travel and lodging can be as expensive as staying at the Hilton, or staying at Motel 8, or camping. Shared travel and lodging make things cheaper but may not work for the antisocial.
Elitist jerks can be found anywhere. Some of them can be alright guys once you get to know them. You might find that they really are not elitist jerks, just jerks in general. Let's face it they put their pants on in the morning just like everyone else, one leg at a time. There are plenty of other guys on the range to talk to between relays.
LordEvilPepper
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Under a rusty barge in BC
The only people i have met that talked about it at the range fell into that catigory. As much as i like being talked down to about how my stock tikka is over rated and that the tactical stock was a waste of cash.. Even though i was shooting sub moa at 300 using factory ammo... Ill pass... Especialy if i have to shell out a boat load of cash and drive half way across the province.
I've followed this thread from the beginning and in a previous post,#12, I referred to motivation as the biggest limiting factor for participation. Cost, travel , criticism from others, other commitments, lack of equipment and lack of interest all are secondary to the level of motivation.
If an individual has the motivation to participate in anything the ways and means to do it will be found.
If costs are an issue,find a way to make more or reallocate money. If criticism is an issue,think of how you'll feel strolling up to take the trophy after whipping the field with deficient equipment. I am busy enough on competition days that I don't spend time listening to much of the banter. It's a vexation to the purpose.
Time management may be difficult but the time can also be reallocated to achieve the needs. If you have absolutely no time and your days are full then you are in a very small minority of the population as most people waste or spend a lot of time on things with only momentary pay value.
When you decide to commit to the shooting thing start using a log to monitor the allocation of all the resources you use. Time is the most valuable.
If there is no interest or you're anti-social, then you won't compete because your motivation is elsewhere.
All the best in your shooting.
If an individual has the motivation to participate in anything the ways and means to do it will be found.
If costs are an issue,find a way to make more or reallocate money. If criticism is an issue,think of how you'll feel strolling up to take the trophy after whipping the field with deficient equipment. I am busy enough on competition days that I don't spend time listening to much of the banter. It's a vexation to the purpose.
Time management may be difficult but the time can also be reallocated to achieve the needs. If you have absolutely no time and your days are full then you are in a very small minority of the population as most people waste or spend a lot of time on things with only momentary pay value.
When you decide to commit to the shooting thing start using a log to monitor the allocation of all the resources you use. Time is the most valuable.
If there is no interest or you're anti-social, then you won't compete because your motivation is elsewhere.
All the best in your shooting.
HOw about a cost- benefit anyalsis
1. cost for Oscar Makonka to go to calgary range from edmonton area,
gas for weekend, 150 bucks
entry fee 4 X 15 60 bucks
hotel 2 X 120 240 bucks and travel home on sunday,
meals on road 40
so total is 490 unless he sleeps in a tent, and has no hot meals unless he asks others to cook on their propane bar-b-q
and nothing factored in about the troubles at the range as mentioned before
so Oscar says, I can buy a barrel is I do not go.
or if I do not go twice I buy a scope
or if I do not go 3 times I buy a action
so Oscar NO GO BUT has lots of stuff for his home range,
sad but true, sorry oscar,
Jefferson
1. cost for Oscar Makonka to go to calgary range from edmonton area,
gas for weekend, 150 bucks
entry fee 4 X 15 60 bucks
hotel 2 X 120 240 bucks and travel home on sunday,
meals on road 40
so total is 490 unless he sleeps in a tent, and has no hot meals unless he asks others to cook on their propane bar-b-q
and nothing factored in about the troubles at the range as mentioned before
so Oscar says, I can buy a barrel is I do not go.
or if I do not go twice I buy a scope
or if I do not go 3 times I buy a action
so Oscar NO GO BUT has lots of stuff for his home range,
sad but true, sorry oscar,
Jefferson
Bolivar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I have actively decided that I will NOT let others ruin my time shooting and competing. Those who spew negativity about me, my gear or their own are ignored. Instead I seek out those who are positive / practical and have useful insight and information to share and exchange.
I compete because I enjoy it. I don't always do very well compared to other more experienced / talented / equipped shooters but as long as I am doing the best that I can, learning how to do better and having fun then I am satisfied and the competition has given me what I want.
I am also fortunate that my wife recognizes that shooting is my passion and that it is important to me. I can't make every match that I want to due to family commitments and fiscal reality but I get to enough to keep me sane and satisfied.
Damn I wish spring were here
I am also fortunate that my wife recognizes that shooting is my passion and that it is important to me. I can't make every match that I want to due to family commitments and fiscal reality but I get to enough to keep me sane and satisfied.
Damn I wish spring were here
Yes it's winter, so get your wife showing you the YOGA positions and Vinyasa Flow you need for CQB competition RFN (right now)..
Use this time wisely! Get conditioned before Service Rifle rundown and then the position change for the snap or rapid fire follow-up matches! 
Barney
- Location
- Prince Albert, Sk
I have to respectfully disagree with your motivation scenario although it does apply to some.
I think that others may be motivated to feed themselves and provide shelter to their families before they are motivated to a hobby.If you are motivated to a hobby prior to your basics needs then there may be issues.
That being said, it is not for everyone.
I think that others may be motivated to feed themselves and provide shelter to their families before they are motivated to a hobby.If you are motivated to a hobby prior to your basics needs then there may be issues.
That being said, it is not for everyone.
