Why get a LMT over stag over norc?
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Davy Crockett
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no offense but there's at least two threads more or less directly relating to this on the first page alone much less the hundreds of other threads asking the same question if you bother to look.
Bottom line the norc is a decent value but the fit and finish sucks and parts may be out of spec.
Stag is just as good as LMT for our purposes but may or may not fit some weinies definition of mil-spec although that seems to be a pretty subjective definition anyways.
buy whatever fits your budget and floats your boat
Bottom line the norc is a decent value but the fit and finish sucks and parts may be out of spec.
Stag is just as good as LMT for our purposes but may or may not fit some weinies definition of mil-spec although that seems to be a pretty subjective definition anyways.
buy whatever fits your budget and floats your boat
Bolivar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I'm a "known" Norc shooter and I like it. A buddy has an LMT and he let me try it out. I have to admit that it did just feel.....better. I can't really explain it. I quickly but it down so as to avoid feelings of inferiority 
And then I beat him in the next two matches we shot....just because I'm a jerk that way.
Seriously, if I could justifiably afford a better rifle I probably would. There is a difference.....the question is do you need/want the better rifle to afford the extra $$$
Ultimately you have to please yourself only, with what you shoot. Some shooters really do need top quality gear, some really want it and as long as they can afford it they might as well have it.
The rest of us are content to make do with what we can/want to spend.
And then I beat him in the next two matches we shot....just because I'm a jerk that way.
Seriously, if I could justifiably afford a better rifle I probably would. There is a difference.....the question is do you need/want the better rifle to afford the extra $$$
Ultimately you have to please yourself only, with what you shoot. Some shooters really do need top quality gear, some really want it and as long as they can afford it they might as well have it.
The rest of us are content to make do with what we can/want to spend.
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I'm a "known" Norc shooter and I like it. I buddy has an LMT and he let me try it out. I have to admit that it did just feel.....better. I can't really explain it. I quickly but it down so as to avoid feelings of inferiority
And then I beat him in the next two matches we shot....just because I'm a jerk that way.
Seriously, if I could justifiably afford a better rifle I probably would. There is a difference.....the question is do you need/want the better rifle to afford the extra $$$
Ultimately you have to please yourself only, with what you shoot. Some shooters really do need top quality gear, some really want it and as long as they can afford it they might as well have it.
The rest of us are content to make do with what we can/want to spend.
That was a great answer
^^^ I've gone to shoots in the US in the past but it's been (10) years since I've done so. For the overwhelming majority of shooters here, this is a non-issue.
Seriously, do the homework. If you don't know why there's a quality difference between a Norinco and a LMT or STAG then I personally don't think you're in a position to even know what it is you actually want yet. How could you possibly make an informed decision based on your complete lack of knowledge?
I don't want to sound mean spirited because that's definitely not my intent here. I'd hate to see you make a mistake that you'll regret down the road and will cost you more in the long run.
Seriously, do the homework. If you don't know why there's a quality difference between a Norinco and a LMT or STAG then I personally don't think you're in a position to even know what it is you actually want yet. How could you possibly make an informed decision based on your complete lack of knowledge?
I don't want to sound mean spirited because that's definitely not my intent here. I'd hate to see you make a mistake that you'll regret down the road and will cost you more in the long run.
When buying a Norc, it is often just luck of the draw. Some aren't reliable or have messed up finishes, others work just fine. In the end, if you end up with a bad one it will force you to learn a lot more about the gun as you try to solve the problem, so in the end you will be further ahead.
Remember that any brand can give you trouble, it is just that the odds are greatly reduced the higher up the scale you go. If you aren't bothered about some machining marks and a crude finish then go for it.
Remember that any brand can give you trouble, it is just that the odds are greatly reduced the higher up the scale you go. If you aren't bothered about some machining marks and a crude finish then go for it.
As the owner of 2 cheap AR15 and 1 quality AR15, I can tell you this:
simply get the best AR15 that you can afford now. In the long term, the quality AR15 will be cheaper to own (really).
You'll end up shooting so much 223 that the price of the gun will have been forgotten in 10 years (10 000 - 30 000 rounds later) but you'll still be paying for the ammo.
Life is too short (to be cheap on guns).
Alex
simply get the best AR15 that you can afford now. In the long term, the quality AR15 will be cheaper to own (really).
You'll end up shooting so much 223 that the price of the gun will have been forgotten in 10 years (10 000 - 30 000 rounds later) but you'll still be paying for the ammo.
Life is too short (to be cheap on guns).
Alex
Someone always has to mention it. Then you go to their house and try to find something that is not made in China.. well, other than their guns.
Quiet surprisingly you'll be hard pressed to find something made in China in my apartment. Almost all my t-shirts are made in either Canada or the United States, all of which far better quality than most of the t-shirts I've owned in the past made in China.
omegaboost
CGN Regular
Do it once, do it right.
Im sure the LMT will last longer and give you much better service life than the norc. Not to mention if ever one day your life depends on it (God forbid), I definitely wouldnt trust the norc. At least you know the LMT is battle proven quality.
Also, if you get the norc, you'll always envy the LMT. Its like getting the lesser model of a car. If you buy a civic but wanted the SI in the first place, you'll end up regretting it later and always wanting it.
Im sure the LMT will last longer and give you much better service life than the norc. Not to mention if ever one day your life depends on it (God forbid), I definitely wouldnt trust the norc. At least you know the LMT is battle proven quality.
Also, if you get the norc, you'll always envy the LMT. Its like getting the lesser model of a car. If you buy a civic but wanted the SI in the first place, you'll end up regretting it later and always wanting it.
Buy a model of AR that you find suits your needs and wants. That being said, don't go overboard and buy the most expensive AR you can get- because you know what's worse than an anti-gun liberal? - Being a GunNut, who owns a ridicuously expensive rifle and can't afford to shoot it.
Bolivar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Originally posted by Target Sports Centre
We believe that all the firearms we sell reflect what our customers needs and wants, we sell Norinco AR15's & have also provided customers with One Shot Tacticals SR25 EMC carbine. In the last couple of months are best selling AR platform has been the NEA 15, we also have range firearms that consist of a custom M&P 15 (80,000rds fired+), NEA 15(20,000rds fired+), Norinco M4(50,000rds fired+) & they continue to be popular for use at the range. Consumers make decisions with their wallets and they will continue to do so for the forseeable future, if One Shot Tactical had 50 KAC SBR's show up - no doubt in my mind they would all be sold in under a week. Our CEO makes sure we listen to our clients wants and needs, if those say Norinco then that is what we will provide, if they say DTA or Blaser then guess what ???
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699376&highlight=Norc+50,000+rounds&page=16
Not trying to say all Norc rifles are fantastic but they are not all junk.
That being said, if I was in the OPs shoes right now I would really consider an NEA since you get the free float forend and you are supporting a Canadian manufacturer....unless you really want to step up to a Stag or LMT. I've already stated my thoughts on that.
We believe that all the firearms we sell reflect what our customers needs and wants, we sell Norinco AR15's & have also provided customers with One Shot Tacticals SR25 EMC carbine. In the last couple of months are best selling AR platform has been the NEA 15, we also have range firearms that consist of a custom M&P 15 (80,000rds fired+), NEA 15(20,000rds fired+), Norinco M4(50,000rds fired+) & they continue to be popular for use at the range. Consumers make decisions with their wallets and they will continue to do so for the forseeable future, if One Shot Tactical had 50 KAC SBR's show up - no doubt in my mind they would all be sold in under a week. Our CEO makes sure we listen to our clients wants and needs, if those say Norinco then that is what we will provide, if they say DTA or Blaser then guess what ???
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699376&highlight=Norc+50,000+rounds&page=16
Not trying to say all Norc rifles are fantastic but they are not all junk.
That being said, if I was in the OPs shoes right now I would really consider an NEA since you get the free float forend and you are supporting a Canadian manufacturer....unless you really want to step up to a Stag or LMT. I've already stated my thoughts on that.
