Why is the M1 Carbine such a POS ???

I had an M1 ( actually an m2) many years ago.

Yes, the cartridge is somewhat underpowered.

But they were nor designed as a main battle rifle. They were designed to be issued to support personnel who needed to carry a light, easy to manage carbine and a good supply of ammo. . Either that or they had be satisfied with a 1911.
They did the job they were designed for quite well.

One problem is Hollywood that often shows U.S. troops in movies going into battle carrying M1 carbines when they probably in reality would have had a Garand.
 
I own MANY m1 carbines...my fav rifle


it was VERY popular as it held 15rnds in a detachable magazine


can you top off an m1 garand if you fire a few without emptying the rifle makeing it useless....

they made 6.2 million or so m1 carbines it saw LOTS of use

very good in street fighting and close combat

never made to shoot 400 yards was designed for 300m effective range

with a 110 grn copper jacket rnd nose bullet

personally with my early inland id shoot at a man sized target out to 200m

m2s were 30 rnd mags but a high cyclic rate somthing like 900rnds per min some consider it the 1st US assault rifel
 
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Quote: "Just outta curiosity, where would you be storing this firearm? As well, and again out of simple curiosity, do you believe in lethal force to protect your property?"

My guns are locked in a gun room. My prohibs are locked in steel lockers.

Lethal force to protect property seems to be over-reaction. I believe in appropriate self defense with whatever is at hand. Probably a 9 iron.

A Thompson is such a heavy clunky thing I would have to be in much better shape before I could consider using it as any kind of a weapon. And it might not have much intimidation value, either. Who would think it was real?
 
"...with a bergen and a rifle..." Or hunted all day carrying an M1 Rifle.
Pietro Beretta, you need to shoot an M1 Carbine with properly reloaded 110 grain HP's. The main complaint about the Carbine is the ammo, not the rifle. Military ball is somewhat light, but a 110 grain HP with IMR4227 will blow a hole the size of a grapefruit in a ground hog.
The Internet story about the .30 Carbine not penetrating the Chicom quilted jackets in Korea is nonsense.
 
Ghostsaww said:
. If it was so crappy, the States wouldn't have used it up into the Vietnam War. .
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Absolutely correct. M1/2 carbine was very much favoured by MACV sf advisers & support troops such as Seabee in Nam. The little carbine was absolutely loved by Asian soldiers because of its light weight and manageable length.

Even SAS adopted M1 carbine as a their weapon of choice during the Malaya emergency.
 
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Yeah, I used to think the weight of a weapon was no big thing. Then I joined the military and did my first ruck march.
 
Pietro Beretta said:
I would be devestated if I was issued an M1 Carbine in WW2. It seems like such a inadequite weapon. M1 Garand, with a Thompson M1 slung over my back, and a Colt M1911-A1 sidearm...now we're talking.

Any M1 Carbine lovers out there?..please explain the appeal/use/importance.
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Look Buckshot, Audie Murphy killed 240 Germans in WW2 with his M1 Carbine and was the most decorated American Army soldier of World War II.

Ask the Dead Krauts what they thought of the M1 Carbine...

Better yet, Read and Educate yourself.
 
Hey guys
I'd just like to say if there are any current USGI carbine owners that feel the same way
as Pietro. I'll be happy to take that terrible little rifle off their hands.......
 
M1 Carbines

I have a few M1's at the moment and they grow on you.

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What is the basis for calling it a POS? if you're talking ballistic energy (as seems to be the discussion compared to the .30 calibre rifles well the old NATO 7.62x51 uses a 146gr @ 2750ft/sec resulting in ~2470 ft/lbs.

While the Wiki on the .30 carbine is 110gr. @ 2000ft/sec at ~880ft/lbs

mind you the current NATO 5.56x45 (approx .223ga) round only uses and approx 62gr-63gr bullet at approx 3100 ft/sec resulting in ~1300ft/lbs force.
 
contact148 is the M1 Carbine king. I only own 6 of them. Its my favorite rifle and I never pass up an opportunity to buy one when things are right. It was the perfect support and officer's primary arm.

I don't have inaccurate M1 Carbines, only inaccurate me.

Either way, the original poster was successful in initiating a busy little thread on this topic.
 
dont forget fast folow up shoots. i an quick with a AR but never as quick as with my M1 carbine. i can just shoot the hole mag placing shots where i want them at 100m. As for power its more then a 357 Mag and god knows it killed more then one
 
I have seen pics of Canadian soldiers using them in Korea. Don't judge a gun by a video game. M1 carbines are always given the short end of the stick.

(ps. They're restricted up here, aren't they?)
 
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