Why no love for the Springfield Socom 16?

Yeah, I have to say I've never understood the guys who post "I'm not posting" posts.

If you don't want to post, don't post. Don't post a post to tell us you won't be posting posts in the future, then follow up your post with subsequent postings. That is a fairly clear indication in my mind that you do not actually want to stop posting, because if you did...you wouldn't.
 
matty86suk stated ...
"i think the socoms are the nicest looking rifles around, too bad they are restricted"
Honesty in advertising forces me to point out that matty is the one who liked my AKM Chop mod enough to take it off my hands ... so obviously his good taste is in question.

SR, Chopper, Pitdog,
Thanks for your appreciation of my efforts. I was beginning to despair that the fine arts of sarcasm, hyperbole, and parody were lost on my audience. I am a mere shadow of my hero, the great guru, grandmaster Gecko … but I hope my humble offerings will improve with practice. I was beginning to feel like that poor little kid who hollered ,
“Oy, the emperor has no clothes …"

And while we are on the subject of nekkid Emperors …
Am I the only one who has a noticed a distinct decline in the last six months or so, of the quality of the postings in the Battle rifle aka M14 NORC section. The FOGG index is getting pitiful, with a signal to static ratio that seems to be almost invisible.

The CGN Battle Rifle forum used to be my all time favorite forum,
But the sad truth is that it has deteriorated severely.
WHY?

Possibly because you CGN BR posters just don’t know how soft and sheltered this forum is. I have a lot of different interests, and I lurk and/or post on quite a different variety of forums. And I’ve been the FNG/Newbie/lurker on many an interesting forum. In case you don’t already know this [ and it seems like the vast majority of FNG/newbies do NOT know this ] there is an UNWRITTEN set of rules of etiquette when joining a new forum.

Rule 1: …. Before you ask a @$#$^ newbie question, read the $#$%%^% FAQ’s and stickys. This cuts down on wasted effort, having people answer the same old stale questions over, and Over, and OVER again. Just simple common courtesy. If you don’t respect our board/forum/section enough to educate yourself before posting a question or an opinion, then why should we respect you enough to take you seriously.

Rule 2: respect and credibility are earned, not automatically bestowed. On most of the forums I visit, especially the ‘merican gun forums, they take them selves SERIOUSLY. The old guys and the regulars are very protective of their forum, and can be brutally merciless on any FNG/newbie who shoots his mouth off before establishing some solid local credibility.
Remember,
“little boys should be seen but not heard “…
and until you can prove you are an adult, with something useful and VERIFIABLE to contribute, STFU and listen. Otherwise you are just blowin' smoke and wasting band width.

And here I would like to present an example of PPP&P on the part of a certain poster … who shall remain nameless …
“All the guys with their little AR's going "pop pop" like cap guns will look over enviously when they hear the "thud thud" of Godzilla beating his chest next to them. Comparing a Norc to the real deal is kinda like comparing a Hyundai Tiburon to a Porsche 911.. just a cheap copy. Yeah, they saved some bucks, but you know what, some things in life you do get what you pay for.”

If someone had posted that on some of the American Gun forums, all the regulars would have ganged up and ##### slapped him until he STFU … or left in embarrassment.

Rule 3: do NOT do personal attacks on the poster. Attacking their stupid opinions in their stupid posting is acceptable, but don’t call the stupid people STUPID personally.

And Dimitri,
Who just attacked me PERSONALLY [ and incidentally quite inaccurately ],
“Simply a attention seeker. Sometimes caused by a personal insecurity. And the way he is going about attacking every poster he can on this thread makes me wonder if he is the one that needs to seek help.”

Inaccurate, because if you check the thread, I didn’t attack anyone personally … merely pointed out how stupid some opinions were using facts, logic, and my personal faves, hyperbole, sarcasm, and parody. This so called attack was NOT at "every poster" .... just the ones who posted drivel.

An insult or a compliment or "personal attack" is a lot like a hat or shoe …
If it doesn’t fit you, why then you don’t have to wear it.

If I have hurt anyone’s personal feelings by pointing out the illogic in their opinions… why then instead of apologizing, I am duty bound to point out that this is probably because, deep down inside, you agree with my assessment of your opinions. If you were SURE you were right, you would simply ignore my rantings instead of accepting them as applying to you.

Some of the posters here got the point …
they KNEW, absolutely and positively that they were NOT Tacticool Wannabes.
THEY don’t feel threatened by my ravings … so why do you?

So Dimitri,
Were you feeling left out because I didn’t quote you?
Well don’t worry Dimitri … I’ll defend myself shortly from your personal attack on my sanity or lack thereof.
And I won’t use nasty names … I’ll just rely on innuendo and ask you a few simple questions. You know, the kind of questions that have no good [ for you ] answer,
Like
“have you stopped beating your wife yet”.

Feel free to answer the questions … and thereby expose the depth of your knowledge and experience on the subject at hand [ or lack thereof ].

Or feel free to NOT answer my questions …
thereby, through innuendo, confirming that you are afraid to answer.

As for your stated opinion that I am personally insecure, and need to seek help …. Help me out here … are you a qualified Psychologist or Psychiatrist as well as being a renowned gun expert?

Or are your opinions on my psychiatric condition, like some of your other opinions, based on smoke … and not very thick smoke at that.

I listed my credentials, experience and qualifications … not so much to brag, as others might have mis-interpreted …
but to establish my credibility on the subject at hand.
Well maybe to brag just a little …
[;{)

So lets explore Dimitri’s credentials and qualifications that might support his opinions and his credibility with a few simple little innocuous questions.
What could be the harm in that?
[ this is known as NO WIN innuendo ...
dontchaluvit? ]

Dimitri is a well known cheer leader for Springfield Armory, and has stated many time right here in this forum, loudly and vociferously, that in his opinion.
SA make a better M14 clone than the Chinese.

So, question # 1 for Dimitri:
How many SA M1A rifles have you personally owned to support this strong opinion? More than five? Less than five? Wow, that many?

#2: How many rounds have you shot out of your many M1A rifles?
More than 500 rds? More than a few thousand rounds? Geeze ... that's a lot!

How many M1A rifles have you TOTALLY stripped down, and rebuilt, and turned into match grade target rifles, with a 2” accuracy money back guarantee?
Wow that many?

How many SA rifles have you had to repair … or better yet, send back to the US for SA warranty work?
And how did that work out for you?

So Dimitri,
rise to the challenge …
surprise me …
brag a little,
and impress me and the rest of the CGN forum with your REAL WORLD M14/M1A experience here.

Or is it like your credentials at Psychology and Psychiatry …
Thin smoke?

Eagerly awaiting your reply …
Have a nice day
[;{)
LAZ 1
 
and for those who don't know who the great guru grandmaster gecko is ...
Shrine of the Mall Ninja

This is a collection of the wisdom posted on the internet by a guy calling himself Gecko45. It all started back at the end of the halcyon summer of 2001, and his posts have created a certain urban legend that many refer to as the Mall Ninja. Hang out at any gun shop, gun show or shooting match and you’ll see one of these guys; you might even see a group of them since they are known to associate in the wild.

The Mall Ninja is easily distinguished by an abundance of “tactical” gear, such as fatigues, a thigh holster (with, of course, a Glock), combat boots, bandolier and other accouterments that you’d usually only see on a SWAT operative. Median age is usually 19-25, and they tend to boast about their various exploits with certain Special Forces units, all of which they’re too young and idiotic to have joined (real Special Forces types don’t brag). They typically have opinions on everything, regardless of expertise, they are uniformly poor shots, and they tend to exhibit a frightening lack of safety training.

The shadowy and shrill figure known as Gecko45 is the holy Dalai Lama of these dolts, but trust me, there are more. Many, many more.
 
I am going to go with less caffeine on that one...sure, maybe it would be a better forum if the old guys all ganged up on the new guys...

OTOH maybe that would make it like everything else about the Canadian gun scene...struggling to stay relevant as a bunch of grumpy old men nurse their bubba'd enfields through another 3 round "sight in session", and ##### about the guys there they don't recognize with evil black baby killers.

If the quality of this forum has declined over the last while, it's sure not because we don't have enough posts like that espresso-generated gong show.

If I had to pick one single cause, it would be M14 Doctor's busy schedule/moving house which has reduced the M14 Clinic action substantially. His clinics were definitely instrumental in making this place a great, informative, social spot. Lots of information was shared and work was done and friends were made, and hopefully something like that can get going again. Tomas has been a great resource for all of us here and did a lot for this community...he was like the West Coast Barney! And that is high praise in my opinion.

That and the price of .308 keeping everyone from shooting their guns a lot.

I would definitely NOT pick "too many new guys" as a key problem. Nor would I pick "not enough respect for Lazerus".
 
Some of the posters here got the point …
they KNEW, absolutely and positively that they were NOT Tacticool Wannabes.
THEY don’t feel threatened by my ravings … so why do you?

I do not, but I support the right of others not to get attacked as "tacticool wannabes" if they do like what ever firearm they wish to own. Hell if they want to take a band saw and welder to their M14 and use a M60 gas system to make a M14K clone. Its their right.

Attacking a poster cause you feel his idea of a nice looking firearm is "tacticool" or attacking a poster cause he finds a firearm "###y" is at the end of the day still attacking the poster. Whether or not you try to hide it better then I did. I can draw parrellels to Zumbo if you wish, "Owning XYZ firearm is ok, but if you own ABC firearm your ...".

Since you are a fan of the American boards you like to mention alot, what would have happened if you made similar comments on their boards? Wait I know you'd have been warned to stop and if you didn't you'd have been banned. I have seen it many times. Just cause you don't like someone else's taste in guns does not mean you can attack them and call them a "tacticool wannabe" or "needing of mental help" cause they called their firearms "###y".

As for your questions I own one, friends included we have 3 SAI's. Since I am the "gunsmith" for our hunting group if a firearm problem I end up fixing it. To date not a single serious issue (one FTE and the rifle needed cleaning). I have approximately 760 rounds through my rifle (4 SA Battle Packs, 5 boxes UMC, 5 boxes Fed GMM and some Fed SGK 165grs) without a hick up. And no why would I strip down a M1A and rebuild it to get 2MOA out of it when I already get better then that with the 3 rifles (w/GMM)?

Dimitri
 
Wow, I just read this entire thread, the attitudes I have read from certain members are unreal. How dare someone fairly new to to guns or the forums ask a question. Way to make people in our sport feel welcome.
 
Laz, dude... more estrogen, or less caffiene... :dancingbanana:

I disagree. Perhaps a little less estrogen me thinks. I clearly understand the love-in with the ball-saggers on the americun-huh! forums, :adult:good god man get a room and wear protection next time, whatever ever they had that irritated them has clearly crawled up inside and took up residence. That constant, nawing pain might actually account for all the hostility. Perhaps one could take a bit of their own advice and not regurgitate whatever they've douched from other forums onto this one. Oooo boy, lets all just jump on the horse and do whatever the Americans do... its worked out world wide so well for them.

What I believe is lost on her highness is not the fact or opinions, its the presentation. There's definately a lot of american arrogance and little Canadian tact in the hissy rantings.

If you follow international media you can regularly hear similiar diatribes out of the southern states when you try to tell a kentucky wife to take her Dixie flag curtains out of her trailer windows or a pregnant teenager being told 'He's not the Daddy' on an episode of Maury. Oh no you didn't... oh yes I did. Now those are real pros he could take some upgrading on his form and presentation from. Take it to the next level and stop piddling around.

My old man had a saying around the barnyard "if it acts like a b*tch, it's best to treat it like one."

Its simply the result of a narrow and selfish vision of a bitter old man. Just because he recieved the benefit of informed, supportive discussion on items of interest 30 yrs ago he has no interest in anymore so the discussion must stop. God forbid someone with a similiar interest, for which we all have an interest in fostering new members, joins (and I particularily love this part) his forum and asks similiar questions others asked when they started.

Sometimes the search function doesn't work well.

Sometimes, the stickys aside which admittedly all should read, you still have to work for a living and don't have the time to search through mountains of historical data to get to a point.

Sometimes you just want to talk with like minded individuals and share an area of interest.

Get in the box and start rotting already. Its clear to most everyone its already half rotten on the inside anyway. An experienced donkey is still a donkey, and its nothing to be proud of.
 
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I disagree. Perhaps a little less estrogen me thinks. I clearly understand the love-in with the ball-saggers on the americun-huh! forums, good god man get a room and wear protection next time, whatever ever they had that irritated them has clearly crawl up inside and took up residence. That constant, nawing pain might actually account for all the hostility. Perhaps one could take a bit of their own advice and not regurgitate whatever they've douched from other forums onto this one. Oooo boy, lets all just jump on the horse and do whatever the Americans do... its work out world wide so well for them.

What I believe is lost on her highness is not the fact or opinions, its the presentation. There's definately a lot of american arrogance and little Canadian tact in the hissy rantings.

If you follow international media you can regularly hear similiar diatribes out of the southern states when you try to tell a kentucky wife to take her Dixie flag curtains out of her trailer windows or a pregant teenager being told 'He's not the Daddy' on an episode of Maury. On no you didn't... oh yes I did. Now those are real pros he could take some upgrading on his form and presentation from. Take it to the next level and stop piddling around.

My old man had a saying around the barnyard "if it acts like a b*tch, it's best to treat it like one."

Its simply the result of a narrow and selfish vision of a bitter old man. Just because he recieved the benefit of informed, supportive discussion on items of interest 30 yrs ago he has no interest anymore so the discussion must stop. God forbid someone with a similiar interest, for which we all have an interest in fostering new members, joins (and I particularily love this part) his forum and asks similiar questions others asked when they started.

Sometime the search function doesn't work well.

Sometimes, the stickys aside which admittedly all should read, you still have to work for a living and don't have the time to search through mountains of historical data to get to a point.

Sometimes you just want to talk with like minded individuals and share an area of interest.

Get in the box and start rotting already. Its clear to most everyone its already half rotten on the inside anyway. An experienced donkey is still a donkey, and its nothing to be proud of.
Thank you for putting into words what many of us were thinking.
 
I had 3 M305's , just sold one, keeping an early Alan Lever one as is, but had M14 Doctor shorten my new Poly M305 and put on the Marstar front sight, annoyed I can't shoot it till after I come back from SHOT, but she is a beauty now and having one modified and one as per factory allows me to have the gun I need. Now the problem will be which gun to take camping, M305shorty, Grizzly, Storm or the SKS?
 
If you follow international media you can regularly hear similiar diatribes out of the southern states when you try to tell a kentucky wife to take her Dixie flag curtains out of her trailer windows or a pregant teenager being told 'He's not the Daddy' on an episode of Maury. On no you didn't... oh yes I did.

Sounds more like West Virginia or maybe Arkansas.
 
incorrigible said:
If you follow international media you can regularly hear similiar diatribes out of the southern states when you try to tell a kentucky wife to take her Dixie flag curtains out of her trailer windows or a pregant teenager being told 'He's not the Daddy' on an episode of Maury. On no you didn't... oh yes I did.

If I may, I think in instances such as this where sentiments are at a peak, it's important (if not vital) that we ensure as much authenticity as possible. With that said, please note that the correct usage of the above phrases is as follows:

"He's not the baby Daddy"

"On no you ditn't..."

Thank you for your kind attention to this matter... y'all...
 
Dimitri said:
“I think when Laz said he was not going to be posting on the MBR forum in the new year was like every other person who's done similar posts. Simply a attention seeker. Sometimes caused by a personal insecurity.”
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Misanthropist said:
I've never understood the guys who post "I'm not posting" posts.
If you don't want to post, don't post. Don't post a post to tell us you won't be posting posts in the future, then follow up your post with subsequent postings. That is a fairly clear indication in my mind that you do not actually want to stop posting, because if you did...you wouldn't.
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What LAZ REALLY said in his kiss off posting last year was actually:
"LAZ will NOT be posting AS MUCH in the Battle Rifle Section in the New Year.

If some people were deluding themselves into hoping that I would not be posting, anything, ever again, to the BR forum ….
Well that was merely …
??self delusional wishful thinking??? On their part.
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Oh yeah,
nearly forgot,
Incorrigible said:
“Regardess of how compelling ones facts are or the amount of historical and practical experience one has obtained, if a person cannot articulate themselves like an adult without breaking down into a frothing, estrogen-packed hissy fit they lose a significant amount of credibility.”

To which LAZ replied:

My CREDIBILTY is bigger than your credibility!!!
And just because I am still in touch with the child within,
and you ain't,
is no cause for you to be jealous.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And QUAPAGUY said:
“All the guys with their little AR's going "pop pop" like cap guns will look over enviously when they hear the "thud thud" of Godzilla beating his chest next to them. Comparing a Norc to the real deal is kinda like comparing a Hyundai Tiburon to a Porsche 911.. just a cheap copy. Yeah, they saved some bucks, but you know what, some things in life you do get what you pay for.”

I recognised that quote from somewhere, and when I dug deep into my GEMCRT Mall Security Specialist Trainee Orientation binder I found it [ that damn binder is SIX inches thick ].

This quote is a flagrant rip off, a paltry piece of plagiarism, ripped directly from the chapter on Special Weapon’s Selection for Mall Security.

In an attempt to find out the real true facts in the original question,
Why no love for the SOCOM?”,
I contacted the primary acknowledged, covert, final expert on all things Tacticool, for his opinion.

That’s right folks … I asked Grand Master Gecko himself about the SOCOM, and the persistent rumors that the SOCOM was the primary lethal weapon of choice for his personally trained Gecko Elite Mall Crisis Response Team [ GEMCRT ]. And to tattle on Quapa for posting TOP secret GEMCRT information on an open, unsecured, publicly accessible internet forum.

And guess what?

GM Gecko actually dropped in personally to give the straight poop on the subject.

And when I say dropped in, I mean that literally.
The wife and I were just about to get frisky in our bedroom last night, when off of the ceiling, a shadowy shadow dropped lightly on to the foot of our bed. I knew at once who it had to be, even if I couldn’t see his face behind the Jack Bauer mask he was wearing at the time. I should have been alerted by the slobbering/snoring/farting from my 110 lb German Shepherd Dog, Ben, a highly trained K9 guard unit, who like myself was eagerly awaiting some replies from all those resumes I‘d sent out requesting employment in the burgeoning field of Mall Security.

Even a new Mall Cop applicant/wannabe like myself, knows that the sopophoric that the legendary GM G uses to put K9 units under, during his COVERT, low priority , infiltrations, causes slobbering/snoring/farting in the K9 units so doped [ but truthfully, in my defence, with “Gentle Ben”, it is sometimes difficult to see the difference.] And of course, I knew this was a benign visit, because on his NON-covert, HIGH Priority nocturnal visitations, GM G will usually leave the head of the K9 unit on the pillow beside the sleeping villain, and the head of said villain’s wife stacked neatly in the doorway.

So I asked GM GECKO, himself, to his face [ well to his Jack Bauer mask anyways ] if Quapa was a GEMCRT agent, privy to those types of secrets, and if Quapa had breached security by posting GEMCRT top secret, eyeballs only, “I can tell you, but I’d have to kill you” tactical info in an open, un secure channel, like CGN.

Gecko assured me that while Quapa was a FORMER GEMCRT member, that he had been kicked out …”Loose lips sink ships …” and Quapa had earned himself a bad rep by having previously, been a bit too loose with GEMCRT secrets on other unsecured public forums.

So Quapa mi compadre in the Mall cop brotherhood, I may be only a wannabe apprentice mall cop, but you are definitely a Has Been. And my advice to you is to sleep lightly. And if you have any love left for your loved ones, in that treacherous, traitorous EX-mall cop heart of yours, send your dog to a boarding kennel for a few weeks if you don’t want any surprises on the pillow next to yours. As for your wife … well that is your call.

Gecko also enlightened me about the tactical role of the SOCOM in mall security, where the short barrel, compact size, and thunderous roar, had indeed stricken terror into the hearts of many a Mall Terrorist. But of course these encounters never make it to page one in the papers, due to stringent Homeland Insecurity regulations regarding admitting that we were actually LOSING the war on terror, and that the terrorist had already been …wellllll striking terror … at the very heart of America … in its Malls. This dirty little war is fought in secret … to protect the innocent sleep of all Americans … who need to know that their way of life, their ability to buy anything any time at any Mall of their choice, is safe.

Gecko admitted that the SOCOM was PREVIOUSLY standard issue to Mall security strike teams across America, usually a few dozen stored deep underground in the “Special room”, where only highly trained, security cleared, and psychologically vetted Mall Security Agents can ever hope to venture.

In fact, Gecko even admitted that he personally had a hand in designing the SA SOCOM specifically for the tactical requirements of Mall Security.

Of course Gecko’s team of scientists [ “Q” branch ] then took your common, run of the mill SA SOCOM, and customized it to the limit. Things like re-casting the SA SOCOM receiver from a special grade of UNOBTAINIUM ORE, found only at the bottom of the crater left by that meteorite in Roswell [ and Gecko assured me it was indeed nothing more than a “meteorite …nudge nudge …wink ..wink ]. That is why the SOCOM has a CAST receiver … UNOBTAINIUM still can’t be forged, like softer, less sturdy, conventional metals.

And Gecko waxed eloquent regarding the special SUPRACAMO paint jobs that these SOCOMS were then given. Q Branch, directed by Gecko’s NINJA trained camo experts, had of course gained experience with SUPRACAMO previously on the Stealth bomber anti radar paint, etc. But that was just a kindergarden warm up exercise. The Q team had taken things to a whole new level.. Not only does the SUPRACAMO paint of the GEMCRT modified SOCOMs make it nearly invisible to any non-Ninja trained eyes, but it actually has some special Ninja Pixy dust embedded in the paint [ scrapings from the aforementioned “meteorite” … nudge nudge …wink …wink ], that fools the common eyeball into thinking the GEMCRT SOCOM is something else entirely.

The latest version of SUPRACAMO makes the GEMCRT SOCOM look just like a common umbrella.

So if you ever see a mall cop racing towards the umbrella rack …duck and roll.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!! The SH!T STORM is coming!!!!

I am not giving out any trade secrets here, because in the modern, fast moving, technologically cascading world of high risk Mall security, the GEMCRT SOCOM is old news … last years racing bicycle so to speak.

So we ordinary people are now priveleged to be enlightened about some of the formerly secret specifications of the GEMCRT SOCOM.

Calibre ….308 WIN of course!
chosen for its versatiliy, and ability for use with mission specialized ammunition specifically tailored to mall security requirements.
Eg: the French branch of the World Wide Ninja brotherhood, labored hard and long to come up with special ARCANE bullets, for MAXIMUM penetration on those [ increasingly more common ] Threat level III bullet proof vest wearing MALL TERRORISTS. So now, instead of merely killing ONE BPVWMT, you can wait until two or more of them line up, and take your shot …. Deleting three tangos at once with one shot, gets you bonus points, a raise, and a genuine GOLD plated lapel pin, to wear proudly.

And, for the new generation of BPVWMT, who pack their BPV with contact explosives designed to detonate on impact from a high velocity bullet, the special shape of the NEW generation of ARCANE BULLETS, has been re-designed to generate a special shock dampening reverse shock wave that will NOT detonate the vests … most of the time. The excellent OVERpenetration of the OLD ARCANE bullets is retained, so you can still get the bonus points for making a three-for-one-shot, but the new bullets will penetrate without detonating any contact explosives that may be present …some of the time.

And for those of you wondering about why the SA SOCOM design and marketing team, chose 16” as the proper barrel length for a dedicated Mall security firearm … well it turns out that the reduced muzzle velocity from a 16" barrel is a requirement for generating the proper harmonics in the anti-shock wave and the proper operation of the anti exploding ARCANE bullets.
hich may work ...maybe?

Slap your head …
it all makes sense now.

The SA SOCOM is not merely a firearm … it is a complete weapon SYSTEM …
optimized for one environment and one environment only … Mall Security. And in that environment, up till now, it has reigned supreme. Deleting TANGOS, two or three t a time, efficiently making America and its malls safe for everyone …
everyone who doesn’t dress funny, wear baggy clothes, or have a turban.

HOW TACTICOOL CAN ONE GUN GET?

So there we have it. The Tactical requirement that make the SOCOM rifle what it is today ... the most Tacticool weapon ever previously deployed by covert Mall Security experts.

But what has replaced the old war horse SOCOM ….
Well I could tell you, but then I’d have to kill you” …
and we don’t want that.

I will however hint that the 6.8 cartridge did NOT spring up in a vacuum.
YES, you guessed it …GM G himself had a hand in developing this new wundercartridge. And it is IDEAL for Mall Security when used with the new 6.8 ARCANE bullets.

Don’t look for the specialized ARCANE 6.8 ammunition on the shelves of your ordinary local gunstore …unless they are in one of the few, select Malls , that has to have some extra ammo around in the back room …just in case the GEMCRT team runs low during an escalating Mall fire fight.

And while I can’t actually tell you the manufacturer’s name without breaching GEMCRT security, [ and risking one of those dreaded nocturnal HIGH priority, NON-covert visits from GM G ] I am authorized to hint that the name has an R and a U in it.

LAZ 1,
Soon to be an Apprentice, Level 1, Mall Security Specialist [ along with Gentle Ben , the K9 wonder dog ]… drooling and slobbering and farting, in a Mall near you.
[that would be Ben doing the DSF, not me ]
[;{)
 
...and these where the days of our lives...i didn't know we had so many females on this board, good on you guys, but maybe keep the cat fights in the women section, none the less, glad to have you on board...
 
What LAZ REALLY said in his kiss off posting last year was actually:
"LAZ will NOT be posting AS MUCH in the Battle Rifle Section in the New Year.

If some people were deluding themselves into hoping that I would not be posting, anything, ever again, to the BR forum ….
Well that was merely …
??self delusional wishful thinking??? On their part.

I never really had a particular opinion on your writings before...but I can definitely say I am experiencing a bit of wishful thinking now.
 
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