Why no SCAR or ACR export?

All the NATO Weapons uses the same STANAG magazines - SCAR using proprietary FN mag is nonesense!

In fact, the FN mag is made by the same contractor that makes everyone's mag.
 
tootall said:
Not trying to be a knob or anything, but.....

Are you anticpating a life or death situation soon?;)
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Ummm no but you see I`m not a soldier that plays on the 2 way range so I think my point is valid. What mags do soldiers use?

I take it kinda like running regular gas in your car that requires supreme, sure it works and you can live with the ocasional engine knock but its not what your engine was designed for.
 
greentips said:
All the NATO Weapons uses the same STANAG magazines - SCAR using proprietary FN mag is nonesense!

In fact, the FN mag is made by the same contractor that makes everyone's mag.
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Why does Magpul make the Emag then? For the hell of it?
 
greentips said:
Because P-Mag is not STANAG. It is designed for AR, and it just happens to fit into some other weapon system.
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I see its clear as mud :) Are STANAG specs the same as standard AR mag specs?

I dont see how Magpul does NOT recomend the EMAG in a AR15 because its made to STANAG specs so how can you say the other way around is perfect?

Makes no sense
 
Questar said:
ACR... It appears that the ACR is using standard trigger, hammer and pins... the spings appear to be slightly modified but very close to standard (one is bent a bit on one side and some are slightly shortened).

We tried installing a Rock River Arms 2-stage trigger and it drops in fine but would require a small amount of "fitting" at the rear of the trigger housing in order to fit perfectly with the selector switch (we've seen that before). Not quite enough movement to allow release of the hammer... but filing the top of the rear trigger housing should correct this.

Mark
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Does this mean you have an ACR in your hands? Mayhaps to sell :D
 
Crossbones said:
Does this mean you have an ACR in your hands? Mayhaps to sell :D
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We have several of them but none are for sale at this point... they are all for our testing and development right now. Once our barrels are completely tested and production barrels are ready for sale, then at that point we'll import ACR's for commercial resale.

Right now our export permit will not allow export of the ACR with factory barrel since the factory ACR barrel is chambered and stamped 5.56NATO (and that is specifically not allowed on our export permit). The permit will allow us to export with other barrels and that's what we have in the works.

I'm guessing about 60 days and we should be able to offer ACR's in both Restricted and Non-Restricted configurations.

Mark
 
Mark, reference the SCAR is the stock fixed? or does it fold etc?
for importation reasons, I know the stock does fold.
 
mildot said:
Mark, reference the SCAR is the stock fixed? or does it fold etc?
for importation reasons, I know the stock does fold.
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The SCAR permit was approved back in late 2009 and they did not put any restrictions on the configuration at that time... the stocks are exactly as designed and shipped from the factory.

Mark
 
greentips said:
The ACR is a heavy pig that needs some serious trimming down in weight before it becomes a viable system.
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You keep bringing up that point. ?

Unless you have a 10.5" carbine that weighs 6lb - ish, everything mid-length with a 16" barrel is high 7s even over 8lbs.

I think 8lbs is a normal weight for a full Rifle.

Even the KAC SR16 is 7lbs 12oz.

Lots of the RRA's are over 8lbs.

Lots of 8lb Noveskes out there too

What I really am trying to say is.. It is a fine range weight or for a short jaunt in the bush :)
 
Questar said:
The SCAR permit was approved back in late 2009 and they did not put any restrictions on the configuration at that time... the stocks are exactly as designed and shipped from the factory.

Mark
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I'm still surprised these came in. There have been three other dealers who have applied for export permits for these and were flatly denied. One of them being the FN Distributor for Canada. In my conversation with Chuck(he's in charge of foreign policy at the State Dept.) He told me no if ands or but are these ever to be exported to Canada. But I guess I'm wrong... That's what I based my conclusion on when I said these weren't coming to Canada. So I guess I have to eat my words on this one. Great job.
 
well I guess good news for us,
ACR uses regular AR barrels...atleast that's what I remembered.

Is the unres version going to be priority? or just regular restricted?
 
yingtsay said:
well I guess good news for us,
ACR uses regular AR barrels...atleast that's what I remembered.

Is the unres version going to be priority? or just regular restricted?
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ACR barrel is not exactly a "regular" AR barrel. There are some differences but it is possible to modify a regular AR barrel to work in the ACR... the profile is different.

We chose to make barrels rather than modify existing ones, especially since we wanted an 18.6" version to allow Non-Restricted registrations.

Mark
 
rivetc78 said:
You keep bringing up that point. ?

Unless you have a 10.5" carbine that weighs 6lb - ish, everything mid-length with a 16" barrel is high 7s even over 8lbs.

I think 8lbs is a normal weight for a full Rifle.

Even the KAC SR16 is 7lbs 12oz.

Lots of the RRA's are over 8lbs.

Lots of 8lb Noveskes out there too

What I really am trying to say is.. It is a fine range weight or for a short jaunt in the bush :)
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It's not so much the total weight of the thing, but the balance and how that weight is distributed. It's very front heavy. The bare gun itself is uncomfortable offhand, so I can imagine how bad it can get once you start putting lights, mounts and optics on it.

The Remington Military model seemed far better balanced and weighted in comparison.
 
rivetc78 said:
You keep bringing up that point. ?

Unless you have a 10.5" carbine that weighs 6lb - ish, everything mid-length with a 16" barrel is high 7s even over 8lbs.

I think 8lbs is a normal weight for a full Rifle.

Even the KAC SR16 is 7lbs 12oz.

Lots of the RRA's are over 8lbs.

Lots of 8lb Noveskes out there too

What I really am trying to say is.. It is a fine range weight or for a short jaunt in the bush :)
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Actual weights (we just weighed them side by side)...

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ACR... 8lb 9oz
SCAR... 7lb 6oz

Honestly they don't "feel" that much different but the scale doesn't lie.

Mark
 
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