Athrun[Zaft
CGN Regular
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- Oakville, Ontario
So, how does the SVT-40 grade for obnoxiously noisy? Should I be more discreet about using my red menace, for my fellow shooter's sake?
Why the muzzle brake hatred?
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bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
Bingo!
That's about it. It's not only braked rifles having a percussion wave, it's most magnums when you're right next to them. Most will set my scope off about one click or 1/20 mil during an aim braked or not. But it's the nature of the range. Deal with it. Good industrial ear-plugs under your modern Peltors will block out just about all sound.
(A bunch of damm screaming brats next door disturbing my fav after-dinner evening music is a lot worse. Unfortunately there seems to be some difficulty getting a city by-law put in place to stop that sort of thing. Go figure.)
However, I don't have any braked rifles anymore. Because of the way the rifles are set up now (including my light 'snap' rifle in 300wm) the rifle recoil doesn't sting very much. (Having proper fit, oversized Limbsaver, and suede stock-sock to eliminate cheek-slap). All except one are substantially heavier than usual too with stiffer/fatter barrels. All the cart's are moderately charged to optimize accuracy. If I loaded to the safest highest pressure and/or used a much faster powder the felt recoil would be much more unpleasant.
The benefit of the brake was being able to shoot substantially more rounds with a degree of accuracy before getting beaten to a pulp when using a lighter undersized (short/small) rifle, shooting full-house loads in magnum cartridges. With a bare stock and thin recoil pad. The real disadvantage though seemed to be an early loss of precision, because the crown inside the brake got carboned up real quick. Cleaning it out through the brake or removing the brake then reinstalling/re-adjusting it was a pain in the arse.
That's about it. It's not only braked rifles having a percussion wave, it's most magnums when you're right next to them. Most will set my scope off about one click or 1/20 mil during an aim braked or not. But it's the nature of the range. Deal with it. Good industrial ear-plugs under your modern Peltors will block out just about all sound.
(A bunch of damm screaming brats next door disturbing my fav after-dinner evening music is a lot worse. Unfortunately there seems to be some difficulty getting a city by-law put in place to stop that sort of thing. Go figure.)
However, I don't have any braked rifles anymore. Because of the way the rifles are set up now (including my light 'snap' rifle in 300wm) the rifle recoil doesn't sting very much. (Having proper fit, oversized Limbsaver, and suede stock-sock to eliminate cheek-slap). All except one are substantially heavier than usual too with stiffer/fatter barrels. All the cart's are moderately charged to optimize accuracy. If I loaded to the safest highest pressure and/or used a much faster powder the felt recoil would be much more unpleasant.
The benefit of the brake was being able to shoot substantially more rounds with a degree of accuracy before getting beaten to a pulp when using a lighter undersized (short/small) rifle, shooting full-house loads in magnum cartridges. With a bare stock and thin recoil pad. The real disadvantage though seemed to be an early loss of precision, because the crown inside the brake got carboned up real quick. Cleaning it out through the brake or removing the brake then reinstalling/re-adjusting it was a pain in the arse.
+1
Nothing more unpleasant than being close to a shooter with a muzzle brake at the range.
Maybe if you're planning to change a tire at 300yrds.
And if by "changing a tire" you mean from a tire to bits.
MauserMike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- SW Ontario
I always wondered what this one would sound like! PaK 43, German 88 at Base Borden. 3200fps at the muzzle
WeatherdoG
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Trenton, ON
That thing is a pea shooter compared to the M777... Which I have been in front of when firing, and even it didn't cause hearing loss over the course of a fire mission so a little old hunting rifle doesn't worry me much.
- Location
- Calgary, AB
LOL..well put!
I had a guy at the range not too long ago with a .338 LM. He wasnt a small guy, even with the brake it was moving him back. I always wanted one until i seen that happen. Tho, i was shooting prone next to him, he was on the bench, Everytime he shot it, all i could do was smile. Even in the dust. I was going to brake my .308 just because it was threaded for it. I never had a problem with the recoil, i just wanted to make a big bang. But, I have sold it and bought a more practical rifle for yote's.
blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
I'd rather deal with recoil "in the field" then the sound from using a braked rifle.
You dont hunt much do you? No one ive ever met uses ear protection when hunting. Hearing is a pretty vital part of the hunt.
You dont hunt much do you? No one ive ever met uses ear protection when hunting. Hearing is a pretty vital part of the hunt.
Hearing is a vital part of everyday life.
Most people I hunt with now use electronic ear protection. You hear better with the volume up, keeps your ears warm if you wear the muff style - one can use the insertable style) and protects you from ANY rifle - braked or not.
Its your hearing -protect it.
Most people I hunt with now use electronic ear protection. You hear better with the volume up, keeps your ears warm if you wear the muff style - one can use the insertable style) and protects you from ANY rifle - braked or not.
Its your hearing -protect it.
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I don't think you can say that wearing muffs will protect you from ANY rifle blast.
With the average electronic muffs giving a best case NRR of 26db and the average rifle muzzle blast at 160 you are still in the danger zone for hearing damage. Assuming you get shooter blast of 140 db (somewhat less than muzzle blast because you are behind) you're still 114db sound pressure with muffs which is quite a lot. Add a brake and you direct more sound back to the shooter so you're back to well over 120db, not so good.
Man I am with you. I took my boys ( ages 5 and 7) up to the range this summer. I had bought them a Savage rascal .22 and they wanted to try it. When we get there a fella is shooting a Browning .308 similar to the Ruger Scout. He had put a muzzle break on it and a huge 2 foot long, 24 power scope. Now he was shooting the gun at 25 yards. Anyway my boys and I put on our ear and eye protection. The boys have muffs that fit their little heads and are really good. Well this guy takes a shot and my boys pretty much crap themselves. As I am setting up they go back into the truck as the noise was unbelievable. I get set up and my boys just want to go home. I wasn't getting them out of that truck for the life of me, even after the guy left. They were freaked and my whole head was ringing from the noise.
