Why the price difference on Leupold

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Out of curiosity I priced out alot of scopes between the US and Canada. I used sponsors above as a guide.

I priced bushnell, Nikon, Sightron, Burris scopes in the states and then again in Canada, most of the time it was less than $100 more in Canada. Sometimes even within $20. More than reasonable for the effort and smaller market

Now Leupold. 150-300 dollars more in Canada :eek: Why is this? Is it cause korth group is the only distributor and they set the prices? Does leupold treat Canada poorly? Some other reason?

****This is not an attack on the korth group as I have not once heard one bad thing. This is also not an attack on sponsors as the prices are the same across the country. I am also not attacking leupold I have one and love it. ******

I just found this wierd and asked around a few local stores and no one could give me an answer.
 
I know what you mean! In the States you can pick up a set of 8X42 Golden Ring Binos for $579.99. Looking around in Canada and they are approximately $1100...would love to buy a set but can't afford to spend $1100+tax, but if they where $580+tax, would have a set in a minute. Looks like a call to the relatives in the States. Love to buy in Canada and support local but for that price difference I can't.
 
2kjb2kjb said:
I know what you mean! In the States you can pick up a set of 8X42 Golden Ring Binos for $579.99. Looking around in Canada and they are approximately $1100...would love to buy a set but can't afford to spend $1100+tax, but if they where $580+tax, would have a set in a minute. Looks like a call to the relatives in the States. Love to buy in Canada and support local but for that price difference I can't.
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You know standard binoculars (no MILDOT, etc.) are not controlled by ITAR, right?
 
There are numerous threads on this subject already and I think everything has already been said that's worthwhile for a reasonable discussion. Either you think your being screwed in Canada and gray market the items from the USA with all the inherit issues or buy in Canada and get the support and service. Phil.
 
P of PDent said:
There are numerous threads on this subject already and I think everything has already been said that's worthwhile for a reasonable discussion. Either you think your being screwed in Canada and gray market the items from the USA with all the inherit issues or buy in Canada and get the support and service. Phil.
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I didn't realize that it is discussed so much. I understand there is cost. But wouldn't it be the same for all scopes? I don't know how it all works but don't understand how there would be more cost on a leupold than a nikon or other. I am just a simple consumer and it confused me. I know there are costs I just assumed it would be similar across the board not just on leupold.

Guess I'll go search to see what I can learn.
 
You could always order them from the states, as long as "not tactical." I believe Bruno Shooting Supplies and the Optics Zone will file the proper export permits on your behalf.
 
The sales volume is higher in the US due to population. The BIG US mass marketers buy better and shipping across the border is alot more expensive than shipping within the continental US, would be some of the reasons.

Another reason is that the lag time from ordering to receiving can skew the pricing.
If the order was placed when the looney was devalued the Cdn price will reflect this until there is sufficient replacement stock at a better $$ to warrant altering the prices.

Not making excuses, just offering some of the possibilities.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
The sales volume is higher in the US due to population. The BIG US mass marketers buy better and shipping across the border is alot more expensive than shipping within the continental US, would be some of the reasons.

Another reason is that the lag time from ordering to receiving can skew the pricing.
If the order was placed when the looney was devalued the Cdn price will reflect this until there is sufficient replacement stock at a better $$ to warrant altering the prices.

Not making excuses, just offering some of the possibilities.
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Not sure if I am on the wrong track but shouldn't sales volume, shipping, and importing/duty costs effect all brands the same if they originate in the same country? I can certainly understand how the fluctuating CDN $ can impact prices if the purchaser/importer bought/ordered prior to the appreciation of the CDN $...but again wouldn't this happen to importer's of the other brands.
 
2kjb2kjb said:
Not sure if I am on the wrong track but shouldn't sales volume, shipping, and importing/duty costs effect all brands the same if they originate in the same country? I can certainly understand how the fluctuating CDN $ can impact prices if the purchaser/importer bought/ordered prior to the appreciation of the CDN $...but again wouldn't this happen to importer's of the other brands.
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Very true all these points do not explain why Leopold scopes are much higher price difference than everything else(comparativly)! That is what the poster wanted to know. If something cost $10 in the US and from various reasons costs $15 in Canada then why does Leopold cost $18 comparatively?
 
The best warranty in the business still in my eyes, doesn't justify nearly 50% or more difference. (I rarely hear of other manufacturers not getting your scope fixed if it breaks. It might take a little longer, but it gets done) Its true, why don't ALL the other brands go up accordingly. I am sure Leupold is not at the top of the list for "Evil" scopes, and fined crossing the border. Just seems a tiny bit smelly to me, and my nose doesn't pick up much these days, I am just too old and crusty.
 
firemachine69 said:
On the other hand, the distributor offers the best warranty service of any optics in Canada, or so I've heard. I quantify that in the "asking price".
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I experienced that, mind you I sent in a U.S. scope, you know a grey market one. Warranty and price difference between U.S. and Canada are two completely different matters.
 
The margin difference is even more tempting when you look at higher end Leupolds that sell for $2300 here and $1200 in the US. The service part didn't make sense when you consider those high end one's (M1 turret tacticals) were only serviceable in the US (I believe?). Maybe that's changed, but the price difference hasn't.
 
I guess the answer is simple. It is what it is. This is the example of what I found when searching prices. I am sure there are cheaper and more expensive in both Canada and the US but this is what I found.

Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16x42 multi X
Canada 716.99
USA 699.99
Difference 17.99

Nikon Monarch 5-20x44 SF
Canada 585.00
USA 499.99
Difference 85.01

Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44
Canada 943.00
USA 849.00
Difference 94.00

Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50
Canada 1760.99
USA 1485.00
Difference 275.99

I can understand the extra cost in the scopes above and gladly pay the price asked for each of these scopes in Canada. The Nightforce price is quite a bit more but I can understand the Demand will be extremely low in Canada compared to the USA for them.

Leupold VX-3 6.5-20x40 LR
Canada 1078.00
USA 759.00
Difference 315.00

Leupold VX-3 1.5-5x20
Canada 645.00
USA 399.99
Difference 245.01

Leupold Mark 4 6.5-20x50mm ERT M1 FFP Mil-dot
Canada 2263.00
USA 1699.99
Difference 563.01

So we are paying more than the difference of a Nightfore. the reasons I got at the gun store and here were; Demand, amount that canada sells compared to US, Fees ect to get it across the boarder, and shipping.

I understand all of that but wouldn't it be the same on all brands? And as far as the amount canada sells compared to the USA I would bet money that we bring in more leupold than Nightforce especially since we only have one importer bringing in all the Leupold. I have been able to find and look through all those leupold scopes at any store I walk into but have yet to be able to look through a Nightforce.


Oh well this thread can slip away through the pages now. Like I said it was never an attack on anybody I was just shocked at what I found and it peaked my curiosity. All scopes compared were the same finish, reticle, ect.
 
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