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C17? wTF ?
why were FNs prohibited ??
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There was a points system, where things like the detachable mag, the bayonet lug, etc, all were worth a certain point value. If I recall, 50 points made it a prohib. I believe this system was based on a similar US system.
Re the C2A1, I always found it too light, even on it's bipod, to be overly accurate. I would take a Bren over it anyday.
Re the C2A1, I always found it too light, even on it's bipod, to be overly accurate. I would take a Bren over it anyday.
M.P said:
When they first restricted the FN rifle(which as I recall came about before C17 or C68), they had a technical drawing that was distributed showing a weld they wanted done to neuter it...I think it was to weld up the hole that the safety(?) sear came up through. Then someone figured out that that made the gun unsafe...the FN was after all designed to use that third sear as part of it's normal semi auto firing sequence, plus the heat of the welding could bugger up the careful heat treatment the receiver received when manufactured.
Since it was fairly (actually extremely) easy to make it fire full auto, as they knew very well, they wanted to avoid a situation such as was seen with Lee Enfield rifles, where there were thousands of them being dumped at very low prices. I read that a number of countries were getting ready to sell off their FN's and the last thing they wanted to see was them being sold for $50 at hardware stores etc.
I'm not their mother, but in some way looking at it from their point of view, I can understand that concern. They'd been watching their soldiers breaking the rules with these rifles for a couple of decades and knew that in civilian hands there'd be no controlling the things...I never got to do it but you don't have to talk to too many militia/soldier types to get the stories flowing about the groundhog that ran across the range and they blasted it with their C1's on full auto with a stick wedged into the sears...
I also read one on here a couple of months ago, some soldiers were on a training mission and one jimmied the sears to fire full auto, then the gun jammed open and he couldn't remove the evidence...luckily for him they didn't know who had been using it, he could have gotten in a lot of trouble.
As for those $129-$179 Ishapore FN's...I bought one, had it for a while and I'm not sure it was even worth that much. The Lithgow L1A1 and the Canadian C1's were the real gems IMHO.
they were too concealable 
I had an FN that was best described as a ' commonwealth rifle ' - it had a Lithgow lower, Brit upper, and was fitted with a Canadian barrel, it was the most accurate FN anyone who shot it had ever seen, most of the guys who said that were ex-military.
I had an FN that was best described as a ' commonwealth rifle ' - it had a Lithgow lower, Brit upper, and was fitted with a Canadian barrel, it was the most accurate FN anyone who shot it had ever seen, most of the guys who said that were ex-military.
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A friend of mine had a bunch of FN's in stock before they became Prohibited and offered them to his friends for $25 or $50 each so the guys could be in that class and they didn't take him up on the offer. They wish now that they had taken him up on the deal so they could purchase others in that class. He has since deactivated most of them and sold them for a lot more that he could get for them if they worked. I think they were the British ones for $50 and the Ishipore ones for $25.
I have a few of the Ishapore, Australian, and British FN’s. All the Australian FN’s that I have had in my collection have two serial numbers on them; one is the Australian number with the first two numbers indicating year of manufacture, and the other one is located on the lower receiver with SPF for the Singapore Police Force. The only changes that were made on them was the removal of the safety sear and cutting back the lower part of the carrier that touched it so it wouldn’t fire unless the bolt was in a locked safe to fire position.
A friend of mine had a bunch of FN's in stock before they became Prohibited and offered them to his friends for $25 or $50 each so the guys could be in that class and they didn't take him up on the offer. They wish now that they had taken him up on the deal so they could purchase others in that class. He has since deactivated most of them and sold them for a lot more that he could get for them if they worked. I think they were the British ones for $50 and the Ishipore ones for $25.
I have a few of the Ishapore, Australian, and British FN’s. All the Australian FN’s that I have had in my collection have two serial numbers on them; one is the Australian number with the first two numbers indicating year of manufacture, and the other one is located on the lower receiver with SPF for the Singapore Police Force. The only changes that were made on them was the removal of the safety sear and cutting back the lower part of the carrier that touched it so it wouldn’t fire unless the bolt was in a locked safe to fire position.
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Man..talk about a sweet looking rifle !
Aaaaargh..why..WHY our god damn (sorry lord) gouvernement wanted to punish us like this ??
Dammit..200$..imagine what would be the situation : chosing between FN vs SKS for 200$....FN !!!!!!!
Sniff..born way too late..
Schneider
!Aaaaargh..why..WHY our god damn (sorry lord) gouvernement wanted to punish us like this
??Dammit..200$..imagine what would be the situation : chosing between FN vs SKS for 200$....FN
!!!!!!!Sniff..born way too late..
Schneider
Alan Lever, of Lever arms claimed to have imported and distributed 40,000 L1A1's. There are no where near that many registered so they are out there somewhere.
I noticed a lot of them at an Indian occupation In B.C. about a decade ago, I think it was near Williams Lake? They showed a "Warrior" shooting at helicopter overhead of him perhaps 200 yards up. He shot 20 rounds at it in about7 seconds, and didn't hit anything. I wonder if he was charged?
I noticed a lot of them at an Indian occupation In B.C. about a decade ago, I think it was near Williams Lake? They showed a "Warrior" shooting at helicopter overhead of him perhaps 200 yards up. He shot 20 rounds at it in about7 seconds, and didn't hit anything. I wonder if he was charged?
My buddy had one, and what a good time that was blasting a clip off !!! I remember other people at the range just awestruck by this weapon. Maybe thats why they were prohib, because people were scared of a rifle with 20 rounds of .308
Im so pissed I didnt pick one up.
In the end my bud sold it back to the original owner. Soon after it blew the barrel up and the shooter needed 25 stiches in his hand. VERY lucky.
They were kinda junky guns, but for the price they were the best buy out there.
Im so pissed I didnt pick one up.
In the end my bud sold it back to the original owner. Soon after it blew the barrel up and the shooter needed 25 stiches in his hand. VERY lucky.
They were kinda junky guns, but for the price they were the best buy out there.
teclaydon said:
Yes, but I cannot see the thugs laying down in the street to fire upon their rivals and others unfortunate enough to be around. To use a bipod, you must be immobile. I do not see being 'capable' of full auto enough of a reason to prohibit this particular firearm. BTW, of all the firearms I cannot have, I WANT a FN the most! I consoled myself and bought a SAFN-49... the closest I'll ever get.
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Kim Campbell came from that extremist socialist party in BC that could not sit in opposition so it turned to #### and went out of business so to speak, don't remember the name of that party, they ruled BC with an iron hand for the post war years, but as soon as they lost power they went tits up, pretty sorry excuse for a political party. Imho Cambell was a conservative in name only.
