I've gotten my hands on a couple of 1377 pistols to chrony and to my surprise they are no faster than the 1322, in fact they are a bit slower (one old and one new, new one is faster) than my 1322. The other thing I noticed is that it doesn't matter how many times I pump them past 10 pumps, they don't speed up where as the 1322 will keep gaining speed but at a rapidly diminishing rate compared to the number of pumps.
Will a well-placed 500 fps .177 pellet........
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My HW80 drops them dead at 975ft per second, and I would not shoot them with a 500 fps gun.Don't make creatures suffer.
Schroedinger's Squirrel
Here we are, a month later. Did that poor squirrel move 'out of town' in a cage or a box ? Inquiring minds . . . In light of the many 'negative' opinions of 'low-power' airguns (including my own), I hope he moved to the aforementioned woods. I have many bird feeding stations and greys are the bane of my hobby, but I don't agree with euthanasia for convenience.
I don't even 'do-in' the starlings that are even worse. 
And choosing reds over greys is racist or something like that. They're all pests, cute or not.
Here we are, a month later. Did that poor squirrel move 'out of town' in a cage or a box ? Inquiring minds . . . In light of the many 'negative' opinions of 'low-power' airguns (including my own), I hope he moved to the aforementioned woods. I have many bird feeding stations and greys are the bane of my hobby, but I don't agree with euthanasia for convenience.
I don't even 'do-in' the starlings that are even worse. And choosing reds over greys is racist or something like that. They're all pests, cute or not.
Here we are, a month later. Did that poor squirrel move 'out of town' in a cage or a box ? Inquiring minds . . . In light of the many 'negative' opinions of 'low-power' airguns (including my own), I hope he moved to the aforementioned woods. I have many bird feeding stations and greys are the bane of my hobby, but I don't agree with euthanasia for convenience.
The little cirtter is still alive because my wife ceased putting seed in the bird feeder until snow falls and cold weather rolls in.............in Edmonton, this may occur by the end of September!
If the little pest shows up after that and gets into the feeder, if it does not repsond to warning pellets, I may very well be permanently canceling its temporary reprieve. If it doesn't make another appearance, lucky for him or her. I admit that this is not a very exciting status report, but all good things come to those who wait............ although I cannot imagine what good there could possibly be in this case.
In order to spice things up a bit I'll report that one morning in the dead of last winter, I noticed an amazingly large white hare lying dead on our back deck with a fallen-over folding-chair sitting flat on the deck next to it. There was a small amount of frozen blood on the frozen-stiff hare's back leg. I have heard that hares can literally be scared to death under certain circumstances. Maybe the hare brushed up against the folded-up chair as it leaned against the wall and it fell over onto him/her and scared him/her to death. Regardless, I called up our City Overlords, told them the situation and they told me that I should simply put the carcass in the garbage, which I did. I suppose their response would be the same if I told them that I had "discovered" a dead squirrel on our deck. There. How's that for bit of unexpected excitrment? Stay tuned for the final episode.
The little cirtter is still alive because my wife ceased putting seed in the bird feeder until snow falls and cold weather rolls in.............in Edmonton, this may occur by the end of September!
I admit that this is not a very exciting status report, but all good things come to those who wait............ although I cannot imagine what good there could possibly be in this case.
In order to spice things up a bit I'll report that one morning in the dead of last winter, I noticed an amazingly large white hare lying dead on our back deck with a fallen-over folding-chair sitting flat on the deck next to it. There was a small amount of frozen blood on the frozen-stiff hare's back leg. I have heard that hares can literally be scared to death under certain circumstances. Maybe the hare brushed up against the folded-up chair as it leaned against the wall and it fell over onto him/her and scared him/her to death. Regardless, I called up our City Overlords, told them the situation and they told me that I should simply put the carcass in the garbage, which I did. I suppose their response would be the same if I told them that I had "discovered" a dead squirrel on our deck. There. How's that for bit of unexpected excitrment? Stay tuned for the final episode.
If you endup shooting it, eat it's back legs. Thank me later.
Do your remember "The Boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel? Great song that most young people have probably never heard of, let alone listened to. (Here is your lucky opportunity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3LFML_pxlY )
Buried in the song's lyrics is IMO one of the greatest observations about human behavior --- "man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest". I'll let you decide which category your advice falls into.
In a pinch .. yes . 495 FPS.177 will kill a squirrel . My son has literally killed hundreds and hundreds with his ruger air hawk. More often then not, it’s a quick and humane kill if he puts the pellet in the right spot, but ......
he has also wounded and lost several ... and has had to chase down and make follow up shots on many. I’m not a fan of this ... pest or not .. no animal deserves to suffer needlessly .
If you have one pesky squirrel to deal with and all you have is a 495fps 177 .. it’ll do the trick. But makes sure you can consistently hit a target the size of a squirrels head at the intended range . Once you can do that .. I’d feel comfortable dealing with said squirrel . But if you are looking for an air gun for ongoing squirrel hunting or for pest control .. I’d look at something with more power in .22 if possible .
On the other end of the spectrum... I use my Diana model 48 .22 ... and it’s too powerful. Not only is the report damn near as loud as a .22 rimfire ... the power is overkill . I have to watch my shots as the pellet almost always passes clean through the squirrel and carries on putting holes in my fence or shed . Lol
he has also wounded and lost several ... and has had to chase down and make follow up shots on many. I’m not a fan of this ... pest or not .. no animal deserves to suffer needlessly .
If you have one pesky squirrel to deal with and all you have is a 495fps 177 .. it’ll do the trick. But makes sure you can consistently hit a target the size of a squirrels head at the intended range . Once you can do that .. I’d feel comfortable dealing with said squirrel . But if you are looking for an air gun for ongoing squirrel hunting or for pest control .. I’d look at something with more power in .22 if possible .
On the other end of the spectrum... I use my Diana model 48 .22 ... and it’s too powerful. Not only is the report damn near as loud as a .22 rimfire ... the power is overkill . I have to watch my shots as the pellet almost always passes clean through the squirrel and carries on putting holes in my fence or shed . Lol
I have a diana stormrider in .177.
I have run pellets over the Chronograph at about 850. The usual red squirrel, head shots are preferred by me. Body shots, I usually pump another to dispatch quickly.
22 is definately the way to go for that in my opinion.
I have run pellets over the Chronograph at about 850. The usual red squirrel, head shots are preferred by me. Body shots, I usually pump another to dispatch quickly.
22 is definately the way to go for that in my opinion.
A forum called Canadian Gun Nutz.
Almost 100 posts trying to figure out how to kill a squirrel.
Talk of calling the municipal authorities for guidance on how to deal with the "situation" of a dead rabbit on the porch.
Wow.
Almost 100 posts trying to figure out how to kill a squirrel.
Talk of calling the municipal authorities for guidance on how to deal with the "situation" of a dead rabbit on the porch.
Wow.
Back when a powerful gun was a FWB 124, the idea was that you needed a gun that shot 400fps for squirrel, and 500 for rabbit. Now we have more power than we can in a sense use. It was printed in the Air Rifle Headquarters catalog. Don't remember if that was terminal or muzzle.
Do your remember "The Boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel? Great song that most young people have probably never heard of, let alone listened to. (Here is your lucky opportunity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3LFML_pxlY )
Buried in the song's lyrics is IMO one of the greatest observations about human behavior --- "man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest". I'll let you decide which category your advice falls into.
Most certainly, hearing about people putting food in the garbage frustrates me. Good song though, thanks for that!
They key is well placed shot. For me that is a head shot. I shoot 13.43 gr pellets at about 730fps. Better hit them in the head or vitals. Vitals is a small area. So if I have to miss I want to miss a head shot versus a miss of the vitals area. With a rimfire there is enough velocity/energy that you have leeway in the vitals area.
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With my Benjamin-Sheridan pump-up 20 caliber and 14.5 gram pellets. 3 pumps gives a chronographed velocity of about 500 fps. This will finish off a black or grey squirrel with a head shot at 25-30 feet but if hit in the body it won't stop them.
Indeed, that's a strange way to waste somebody's time on the phone!
I've used a Gamo big cat in .22 for grey squirrels
It pushes wadcutters around 950fps, and from 30 feet or so pellets were not only delivering instant death, exiting they were creating exit wounds on the skull.
There were never spasms like I've seen on YouTube, but one of them clung a death grip with it's back legs to the branch it was on, limply upside down for a few seconds. It was pretty clean but you had better be sure of your backstop if you're popping them in the yard.
