Will AR's Ever Be Non-Restricted?

Suputin said:
You are wrong. Any semi-auto rifle with a factory barrel less than 18.5" is restricted.

Back before the AR was listed as a restricted rifle, there were very few short barreled ARs because nobody wanted a restricted AR. When the lieberals changed the laws, an unintended consequence was that suddenly there was no barrier to owing shorty ARs and so that market exploded.

Today, if the AR were to be reclassed, there would be thousands of nearly worthless short AR barrels and uppers out there as people tried to dump them to render their ARs non-restricted.
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Yes and no, you'd open a very grey area of law as Uppers are not controlled you'd have to register your lower as either restricted or not registered at all. It would be a similar affair to what exists in the states for simplicities sake at minimum it would make sense to reduce barrel length needed for non restricted to 16" to match the laws.
 
We need a million people to buy an AR-15 type rifle or better yet a million current gun users to join the NFA or CSSA...That would make a difference.
 
supernova said:
If you ask me, there shouldnt be a single rifle or shotgun in the restricted class. With the exception of guns short enough to fit in the handgun class, there is no logical reason for it. I can understand trying to control the number of handguns carried by criminals but the rest of it is blatant disrespect towards the law abiding gun owners, who happen to make up the majority of gun owners. Lets get the LGR six feet under and once again collectively establish and fight for a common goal.
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:agree:
 
Leibermuster said:
We need a million people to buy an AR-15 type rifle or better yet a million current gun users to join the NFA or CSSA...That would make a difference.
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Agreed 100%. The best way to protect our rights and freedoms is to exercise them. I recently upgrade to an RPAL (hadn't owned handguns since the FAC days). It was a royal PITA but now it's done and I am buying/using restricted stuff again, finally. I'm also a member of the CSSA.

I would love to see AR's be non-restricted.
 
Would there in fact be strength in numbers? What if all RPAL holding CGNs made a concerted effort to aquire an AR in the next twelve months (or sooner)? Would there be anything to be gained in the effort to de-restrict the AR? Just wondering.
 
Tom_Swift said:
Yes and no, you'd open a very grey area of law as Uppers are not controlled you'd have to register your lower as either restricted or not registered at all. It would be a similar affair to what exists in the states for simplicities sake at minimum it would make sense to reduce barrel length needed for non restricted to 16" to match the laws.
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What grey area? How is this any different than the current existance of the XCR or Swiss Arms rifles? Both have restricted and non-restricted lowers based on what upper receiver is attached to them at the time of registration. If you put a restricted length upper on a non-restricted registered lower you have 30 days to advise the CFO of the change.
 
It will never be non as it is too close to the m4 and the full auto capability, the man all ways wanting to keep his boys with better tools to kill then what the public can posses.
 
D-man dog said:
It will never be non as it is too close to the m4 and the full auto capability, the man all ways wanting to keep his boys with better tools to kill then what the public can posses.
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So those of us that have an M4 are pretty much screwed eh??? :kickInTheNuts:

Several AR15 variants sold to the pulbic are capable of housing a full auto sear. It's just illegal to have it in your AR15 unless you are one of the few that have the special authorization to have it. A lower is called "milspec" for a few reasons, that is one.
 
D-man dog said:
It will never be non as it is too close to the m4 and the full auto capability, the man all ways wanting to keep his boys with better tools to kill then what the public can posses.
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You are confused, if it was so close then it would be prohibited not restricted. There are MANY non restricted firearms that are easier to convert than the AR15.


fenceline said:
Several AR15 variants sold to the pulbic are capable of housing a full auto sear. It's just illegal to have it in your AR15 unless you are one of the few that have the special authorization to have it. A lower is called "milspec" for a few reasons, that is one.
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Dude, there is ONE, that's it. One Colt 9MM AR15, R0somethingorother. It has the pin drilled, it is restricted (RCMP doing their jobs here 100%). Nothing else has the pin drilled, or the pocket milled out to spec. Some are more difficult than others (High shelf and low shelf).

lol @ milspec lower comment.
 
It will never be non as it is too close to the m4 and the full auto capability, the man all ways wanting to keep his boys with better tools to kill then what the public can posses.
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While it isn't exactly rocket science to do the FA conversion on an AR, it requires some fairly expensive machine tools, the knowledge and skill to do it properly and a half dozen or so specific parts that aren't exactly easy to come by in Canada. Not what I'd call "easy".
 
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