Will coyotes keep the deer away?

If coyotes kept deer away like some misinformed hunters would have you believe, there would be no deer anywhere because coyotes are everywhere.

Matter of fact, the large forest tract with the highest coyote population in my area also holds the highest concentration of deer. Some people think coyotes only eat deer when it's actually just a small portion of their regular diet most of the year.

True, they also eat turkeys and rabbits.
 
So I didn't see packs chasing deer in front of me ? I'll have to get my eyes checked and my meds reviewed.
 
Up here Coyotes at present but not common, large Gray or Timber wolves are the norm and they are plentiful. When the big wolves are around the deer are noticeably on edge but they certainly don't leave the area as there is no where to go except into another wolves territory. I get deer on the game cameras, couple hours later a few wolves, several hours after that more deer. So deer learn and adapt from my observance to live within there environment which includes wolves, man, bears, and coyotes. They will change their daily behaviour patterns though to side step the threat. So I have noticed deer that would be coming to feed late in the afternoon would now come during the night, or early morning.
 
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A further thought to control the coyote population is to import "Road Runners", from the south west, and perhaps several of those big shaggy dogs. Once we have an established Road Runner population and some of those big shaggy dogs on rural properties the coyote population will fall in line as I have never ever seen a coyote win just one battle with a Road Runner, or one of them shaggy dogs. :redface:
 
Here in jan/feb coyotes drive the deer onto the ice of lakes etc and kill just for sport it seems at times not even eating them
Be nothing to count 6 or 8 dead deer over a weekend
There is no place for them IMO if you want a good deer herd
Yes they will adapt but you will never see the numbers you had prior to the coyote showing up which for us was in the late 80's
Cheers
 
Here in jan/feb coyotes drive the deer onto the ice of lakes etc and kill just for sport it seems at times not even eating them
Be nothing to count 6 or 8 dead deer over a weekend
There is no place for them IMO if you want a good deer herd
Yes they will adapt but you will never see the numbers you had prior to the coyote showing up which for us was in the late 80's
Cheers

I have seen that too when the snow get deep and or crusty. They seem to go nuts and eat only choice parts. Wolves are much worse.
 
Here in jan/feb coyotes drive the deer onto the ice of lakes etc and kill just for sport it seems at times not even eating them
Be nothing to count 6 or 8 dead deer over a weekend
There is no place for them IMO if you want a good deer herd
Yes they will adapt but you will never see the numbers you had prior to the coyote showing up which for us was in the late 80's
Cheers

[/SARCASM ON] No way, that can't be! What about the Circle of Life???? Everyone knows predators will only kill enough to eat, and only cull the sick and weak animals. You have to be wrong. I saw it in a Disney movie [/SARCASM OFF]
 
[/SARCASM ON] No way, that can't be! What about the Circle of Life???? Everyone knows predators will only kill enough to eat, and only cull the sick and weak animals. You have to be wrong. I saw it in a Disney movie [/SARCASM OFF]

I love the way the sarcasm drips of that. Good one.
 
i do think we have to look at ourselves as the cause of this problem - we have been taking their land away for years - the building of new homes is one reason


That's not even close to accurate. They're effectively a non-native as it pertains to Ontario.
 
That's not even close to accurate. They're effectively a non-native as it pertains to Ontario.

Even whitetail deer around here (Winnipeg area) are non-native. Apparently there is record of when the first appeared around here. They followed farming north, and also the decease in numbers of mule deer.
 
[/SARCASM ON] No way, that can't be! What about the Circle of Life???? Everyone knows predators will only kill enough to eat, and only cull the sick and weak animals. You have to be wrong. I saw it in a Disney movie [/SARCASM OFF]

In the paper here today. LOL they finally are saying they might take moose here HELLO'
Fix the link

https://ww w.capebretonpost.com/news/local/unusually-large-group-of-coyotes-devours-cape-breton-hunters-apples-383299/
 
Don't think they keep them away. Coyotes certainly have an impact on population though. Recall reading a study (sorry don't have the link) which showed only 25% of fawns make it to 9 weeks old. 80% of that mortality was coyote and 20% was bobcats.
 
Don't think they keep them away. Coyotes certainly have an impact on population though. Recall reading a study (sorry don't have the link) which showed only 25% of fawns make it to 9 weeks old. 80% of that mortality was coyote and 20% was bobcats.

If coyotes are removed does the fawn mortality rate change?
 
If coyotes are removed does the fawn mortality rate change?

It will make a difference don't let anyone tell you it does not....
Example.....if there are 3 coyotes around, they may eat a few fawns in the spring..... If the 3 coyotes are killed, they won't be around to eat the fawns...just makes sense.....
Now some may say new coyotes will move in......well that might be, but wherever they came from, will have fewer coyotes too......So the total amount of coyotes will be less and less coyotes means less likely a fawn will be killed...
Killing coyotes does help, the ones that say it doesn't, I just don't believe them..
 
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