Will lever actions be targeted?

As others have said, I believe they will come after repeating actions... We just don't know when...

Don't let that stop you from enjoying the Shooting Sports. If you want a lever, buy it! Enjoy it!

And support the firearm orgs in challenging this mess in court!

Cheers
Jay
P.S. Here is the buck I took with my Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. That should help ya decide ;)

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Steyn said:
Yes, they will ban everything, given the chance.
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X2. This is the Liberanos long term goal. Never forget this.

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Jean Chretien
Joe Jordan
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Ralph Klein
Anne McLellan
Kim Campbell
Herb Gray
Giuliano Zaccardelli (RCMP Commissioner)
Heidi Rathjen
David Collenette (Transport Minister)
Robert Frolic (NWEST)
Sheila Fraser (Auditor General of Canada)

Allan Rock
"I came to Ottawa with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers."

— Allan Rock, Canada's Minister of Justice
Maclean's "Taking aim on guns", 1994 April 25, Vol.107 Issue 17, page 12.

"... protection of life is NOT a legitimate use for a firearm in this country sir! Not! That is expressly ruled out!".

— Justice Minister Allan Rock

"Canadian justice issues, a town hall meeting"
Producer - Joanne Levy,
Shaw cable, Calgary (403) 250-2885
Taped at the Triwood community centre in Calgary, 1994 December.

'So, will his new gun laws - aimed primarily at law-abiding firearms owners - reduce the crime rate even further? Rock is hesitant to give a conclusive answer: "I think it will help. (But) I don't want to overstate it. I don't want to give any guarantees."

— Allan Rock, Ottawa Citizen, 1994 December 1, A3

"It's true that the judgement of what firearms should be prohibited will be decided by the government of the day - and shouldn't it be that way?"

— Justice Minister Allan Rock, the Globe and Mail, 1994 December 1.

Sharon Carstairs
"C-68 has little to do with gun control or crime control, but it is the first step necessary to begin the social re-engineering of Canada."

— Quote by Senator Sharon Carstairs (Liberal) 1996 January 26 - 11th Annual Community Legal Education Associations (CLEA) Conference, Winnipeg, Manitoba
Several people witnessed her saying this, but it is denied by the senator.

Details about this quote from Dave Tomlinson (NFA): Carstairs In Denial
Original posting vol 1 #406 < Off Site > from the Canadian Firearms Digest. Am RFC RED ALERT

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"The fact is that no legal and privately-owned full automatic firearm has been used in any crime of violence in all of Canadian history."

— Charles Moore via Garry Breitkreuz
Cdn-Firearms Digest V2 #444 < Off Site >, 1998 June 17

Saskatchewan Federation of Police Officers
``The Federation chose to reject support of C-68, primarily the registration and licencing sections as they posed a substantial waste of scarce resources both in manpower and finances, with no measurable effect on the criminal element.

Saskatchewan police officers do not feel threatened or intimidated by responsible law abiding citizens owning any type of firearm be it rifle, shotgun, handgun, or military rifle; engaging in any activity that does not threaten or affect the peace, good order and safety of our society.''

— Murray Grismer, Saskatoon Police Force, Saskatchewan
Saskatchewan Federation of Police Officers
FED UP II Rally, Parliament Hill, Ottawa, 1998 September 22

Jean Chrétien
Original quote in French

"pourquoi achèter des carabines à répétition et de l'armement nucléaire -- quand c'est à la maison un enfant peut jouer avec ça"

Translation:

"Why buy repeater carbines and nuclear armament -- if this is kept at home a child can play with it".

— Prime Minister Jean Chretien
French CBC (SRC), Montreal 1997 May 21

As reported in CFD Vol.1 #855 < Off Site >

Joe Jordan
"gun registration is no more complex than the Income Tax system."

— MP Joe Jordan (Liberal, Leeds-Grenville) — CBC NewsWorld, 1998 May 4

This hour has 22 minutes
"Guns don't kill people, Cuts to healthcare do!!!"

— "This hour has 22 minutes" CBC / Salter Street Films
1998 October 19

Ralph Klein
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms." [emphasis added]

— Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)
Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9

Anne McLellan
"... we're not interested in confiscating their guns, as long as they are legitimate gun owners, as long as they store them appropriately, transport them appropriately and so on ..."

— Anne McLellan, Minister of Justice
September 22, 1998, Ottawa (FED UP II)

Transcribed from audio recording from Tom Zinck's site: Anne_McLellan_Promise.wav

"This government does not believe that public safety is enhanced by carrying weapons. In fact, it has been a long-standing Canadian government practice to discourage the use of personal defence weapons. Once public possession of one type of weapon is condoned for personal defence, the situation of weapon possession for protection starts to spiral upwards towards more powerful and dangerous weapons."

— Anne McLellan, Minister of Justice
1999 January 13, letter. As seen in CFD vol2 #819:< Off Site >

Kim Campbell
"There are certain things in gun control that have a certain public appeal, but when you're legislating you need to look at the research on what works, what doesn't, and what really has an impact, recognizing you're never going to do away entirely with gun violence,''

"There's no evidence that registering guns reduces the level of gun violence. It's not that I don't think it's something worth doing, (but) it's something you do much later.'' [emphasis added]

— Kim Campbell, Canada's consul-general in Los Angeles
Montreal Gazette, 1999.12.04, Byline: David Gamble "Are we Safe?: . . ."

Kim Cambell is the former Canadian Justice Minister (and for a short while Prime Minister) Progressive Conservative and creator of Firearms Bill C-17 (passed 1991)

Herb Gray
"The statistics requested respecting the number of crimes that have been solved by tracing the firearm back to the registered owner are not kept at this time and are therefore not available."

— Solicitor General Herb Gray
Answering on behalf of the Liberal Government the written question "Since 1934, how many crimes, in total, have been solved using the RCMP's Restricted Weapon Registration System?"

May 17, 1996 News Release < Off Site > of MP Garry Breitkreuz (who asked the question)

Giuliano Zaccardelli
"I don't believe a handgun should be in the hands of anybody,"

— RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli
Calgary Herald, 2001.05.28, Page A2

Said to about 150 mayors, councilors and reeves at the Federation of Canadian Municipalities conference as part of a response to a question from a small-town Alberta politician who suggested the hundreds of millions of dollars the government has spent on the gun registry would be better used to give the RCMP more resources.

Heidi Rathjen
"No studies have been done to link gun legislation to declining firearms-related deaths,'' says Ms. Rathjen, "but you can draw your own conclusions.''

— Heidi Rathjen, Coalition for Gun Control
as quoted in The Ottawa Citizen - Page A16 - November 18, 1999

David Collenette
"I'm not happy, frankly. Because I think in a civil society we don't need firearms."

— David Collenette, Transport Minister

Admitting he still has concerns about allowing armed RCMP officers [as Canadian sky marshals] on jets.

PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Sun
DATE: 2001.12.12
SECTION: News
PAGE: 3
SOURCE: Parliamentary Bureau
BYLINE: David Gamble

"I believe in a civil society we should do as much as possible not to have firearms in any guise, but obviously they are a necessary function of policing."

— David Collenette, Transport Minister

Transport Minister David Collenette admitted there's a "danger" of innocent passengers getting accidentally harmed by armed air marshals who will fly undercover on some flights to ward off terrorists.

PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen
DATE: 2001.12.12
BYLINE: Mark Kennedy
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They banned single shot rifles with no mag or repeating action
What makes anyone think they won’t ban a lever?
Once all the semis are gone they will have to come for something else and that’s when levers and pumps will go
 
Are lever actions firearms?

Yes.

Of course they will be targeted.

Every banned firearm was banned for the simple reason that it is a firearm!
 
In the short term no. Long.term, everything is targeted.

Had a 22lever. After the second mag tub, the novelty wore off. Rimfire is precision, five shots in the size of your thumbnail is meh Okkkkay. I didnt like the buckhorn rear sight, so it got a tang/peep. Still underwhelmed, and down the road it went.

Expensive to buy, average at best accuracy.
 
irishcanuck said:
Looking to buy my first gun after dealing with a less than pleasant CFO who encouraged me to withdraw my application multiple times (I didn't and got my PAL!). I was originally looking at the Ruger 10/22 but I've been leaning more towards getting a 22cal lever action now.

Do you guys think lever actions will be on the chopping block?
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repeat after me: "Complete disarmament is the goal" and then ask yourself the question again



Definition of complete

(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : having all necessary parts, elements, or steps a complete diet
b of a protein : containing all essential amino acids Beans and grains combined together form a complete protein.
2a : total, absolute complete silence
b : fully carried out : thorough a complete renovation
c of a football pass : legally caught
3 : brought to an end : concluded a complete period of time
4 : highly proficient a complete artist
5 of a subject or predicate : including modifiers, complements, or objects
6 of insect metamorphosis : characterized by the occurrence of a pupal stage between the motile immature stages and the adult — compare incomplete sense 3
7 : having all four sets of floral organs
8 of a metric space : having the property that every Cauchy sequence of elements converges to a limit in the space
 
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FEDGE2.0 said:
Why would a CFO encourage you to withdraw your application multiple times?
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there was a long thread on this.

irishcanuck said:
Looking to buy my first gun after dealing with a less than pleasant CFO who encouraged me to withdraw my application multiple times (I didn't and got my PAL!). I was originally looking at the Ruger 10/22 but I've been leaning more towards getting a 22cal lever action now.

Do you guys think lever actions will be on the chopping block?
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I would say purchase anything you like, every firearm is a gamble in this anti gun climate.
 
trebor2880 said:
Keep re-electing Trudeau, and we'll find out!
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THIS^^^^^^^

Too many members on here still vote Liberal I would venture a guess/bet on.


After all, it's been 25yrs since the last round of gun control with C68 back in '95. So that is statistically considered a generation. Thus a new generation of gun owners have to learn the hard way what Liberals do when it comes to gun control. In the meantime a slow erosion of gun rights occurs as each generation learns the hard lesson.
 
irishcanuck said:
Looking to buy my first gun after dealing with a less than pleasant CFO who encouraged me to withdraw my application multiple times (I didn't and got my PAL!). I was originally looking at the Ruger 10/22 but I've been leaning more towards getting a 22cal lever action now.

Do you guys think lever actions will be on the chopping block?
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Nobody knows for sure but if it’s for a good price by all means.
 
Jay said:
As others have said, I believe they will come after repeating actions... We just don't know when...

Don't let that stop you from enjoying the Shooting Sports. If you want a lever, buy it! Enjoy it!

And support the firearm orgs in challenging this mess in court!

Cheers
Jay
P.S. Here is the buck I took with my Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. That should help ya decide ;)

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Nice one Jay! :cool:

When my father was 18 his father bought him a used Win '94 in the venerable 30-30 to go to deer hunt camp with the first time. He could shoot that darn thing amazingly well and fast when younger. There was not a speck of bluing left on the receiver from handling. He also removed the saddle ring because its clatter would scare the deer while on watch. When he was in his 60s he replaced it with a Marlin in 30-30 which I still have.


And btw, for cripes sake, listen to what Jay and others on here have to say.
 
Once the semi's are gone... the repeaters will be next.

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- There's already a precedent of a lunatic using a lever action to attack parliament...
- There will be some other incidents involving them. The high-capacity magazine tube (more than 1) will be seen as a loop-hole by the anti's...
- They will be referred to as military-grade firearms
- Some bleeding-hearth anti's will say they need to be banned because they are a sign of oppression... Clue-in posters of first-nations getting decimated by cowboys using lever-action rifles.
 
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