Will Mental Health-based Diagnoses Be Checked On?

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Poseidon said:
16 (c) of the application says:



A very close friend of mine has had a long history of depression, severe anxiety, and even psychosis. If my friend were to say "no" on the application, would my friend be in the clear? I doubt the RCMP will go through all the trouble of subpeonaing all of one's health records.

Please don't turn this thread into an ethical/moral debate.

Thanks in advance.
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Just so happens I know a friend who has battled depression.

His one love in life is the challenge of hitting the bullseye. Shooting guns, not himself.
 
Unbelievable! I can't believe someone actually asked that. The simple answer is NO they would not be "in the clear".

Not all depressives are suicidal, in fact most are not. However a history of psychosis, especially if ongoing is a serious issue.
 
The bit about psychosis is why I wouldn't support this applicant acquiring guns. As for the bit about depression... aren't we the ones who always say "if there's no gun available, they'll just get a rope."? I have also heard it said on here that the statistics back this - overall suicide rate remains stable, though firearms suicides decline.

I have a clinically depressed friend who would like to own firearms. He's been a died in the wool liberal since... forever. I took him out skeet shooting. Now he's beginning to see the light.

I certainly won't lie for him, and have encouraged him to be truthful on his application. I hope that he will be granted a licence despite his diagnosis; he is medicated and stable. If they won't give him a licence there will always be a gun for him to borrow from my collection. If it does come to that, I will stick to the letter of the law and always supervise him directly or, possibly, loan it to a mutual friend who is licenced (who will supervise him directly). Not because I agree with the idea that (stable, medicated) depressed people should be forbidden firearms, but because I'm not ready to be the martyr who tries to get it changed.
 
I'm in the camp with the early posters - UNbelievable that someone would ask this. Even worse that some one supports false info on the application. Get your friend to a doctor and get him some help - set some for yourself at the same time. You obviously have NO integrity. As with the earlier post - an 8 yr old would have better judgement
 
My wife has an PAL. About 4 years ago she had a bout of situational depression. We had to make a move we didn't want to make, we both ended up in very stressful jobs, she lost both parents in a year (and we weren't nearby to help) and our daughter got pregnant out of wedlock. She was on anti-depressants and off work for about 4 months. When she renewed her PAL she indicated she had a period of depression. She got a call, she explained the situation and that she was back at work and off of anti-depressants. She got her new PAL without any further discussion.
 
Poseidon said:
A very close friend of mine has had a long history of depression, severe anxiety, and even psychosis. If my friend were to say "no" on the application, would my friend be in the clear? I doubt the RCMP will go through all the trouble of subpeonaing all of one's health records.

Please don't turn this thread into an ethical/moral debate.

Thanks in advance.
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Legally, no. Your friend has made a false statement and if the RCMP find out from his medical records he lied, he will not get his application approved, plain and simple. He could certainly be charged with uttering a false statement among other things. Remember the part at the end where one has to declare that what information is true and accurate and then sign and date it? That's the part that will get him.
 
I agree that depression does not equal suicide. What bothered me was psychotic episodes. I don't think the OP was legit, more of a first post trolling.
He did say his "friend" was psychotic. Maybe he is at that. Maybe we should be tracing the IP, this could be a real nutter. Lord help the people who are unfortunate enough to live around this guy.
 
my rpal course instructer accually said that he knew someone with severe depression about 7 years ago, the process of getting his pal was a long and painful one, which included conversations with his doctor and councelers....im pretty sure that they check on it somehow....i would just be honest
 
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