WK180-C range review. Update Post #2

I forgot to mention, the receiver threads were very tight. I thought it might have been the receiver extension itself, but I threaded it into my Stag 10 today and it was easy.
 
no issues with LAR mags for me.

77gr didn't feed regardless of mag

failure to extract all-around though, 1 in 10 rounds or so. I'm confident a wolverine supplied extractor will fix it though.
 
Can't wait to see the Stag reviews. ...the 10 shot groups with the build kits are friggin awesome. ☺
 
KodiakSteve said:
Hi Guys this is Steve from Kodiak Defence I assure you that if there are issues with your rifle when you get it. They will be fixed. We are in this business to give you the best quality product that we can. We will warrantee everything 100%.
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I have dealt with Steve before, and KNOW they back their product 100%.
 
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jiffx2781 said:
Awesome build griffin.

Maybe you know this already but I'll just point it out in case you didn't but your PRS Gen 2 stock is the AR15 version and the cheek rest will interfere with the charging handle. They made an AR10 version with a shorter length cheek rest because of this.

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I didn’t know that, but I don’t raise my cheek rest anyways. :d
 
notsorichguy said:
OP, I didn’t want to start a new thread, I hope you won’t mind me posting this.

I received mine on Monday, 2 days ago..... #80 if the serial #s are conological....

So far, factory ammo I’ve tried:
Hornandy Steel match 55gr and 75gr
Hornady 40gr, 50gr and 55gr varmint ammo
Federal/AE 55gr FMJ
AE 50 and 55gr HP
MFS 55gr
Norinco yellow, red, and white box

Best 5rnd group so far, MFS @ 2.6”
Worst 5rnd group so far, Hornady 75gr steel match @ 3.3”

That’s with a Bushnell AR optic 1-4. The groups are problematic at this point as I KNOW I’m the problem. A better optic would do better IMHO. I was not using a rear bag. A few of the groups were “wide” and not tall, so with a better scope, and a proper rear bag I believe this rifle is capable of better accuracy.

First 5 mags were every second round jam. That seemed to get better.
30/5Pmags don’t work.
20/5 Pmags work flawless
All my “steel/metal” mags don’t function at all.... unfortunately all my 10 and Beowulf mags are metal.....

I should also mention, all my mags work flawlessly in my other 7 rifles that take AR pattern magazines. So all of these mags are “known good”. I have a bunch of the 5/20 Pmags so I’ll be just fine.

The rifle is very good for the cash spent IMHO. All of the ammo tried was capable of hitting a 12” gong at 200y without changing zero or adjust point of aim with the AR optic. The only gripe I have...... the safety “bugs” me.... it’s not in the right spot in relation to the grip. It’s easier to use my trigger finger than my thumb to operate it.....

Cheers!
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As much as I appreciate the effort by Wolverine and Kodiak, I had concerns before this rifle went into production as I was surprised by the presumably small and most likely insufficient number of prototypes involved in testing and evaluation. Through the course of development, designers and manufacturers would usually make quite a number of prototypes from the initial function test unit to the point of design/tooling freeze, as they kept improving the design and ironing out problems. Then the first batch of products are usually kept by the manufacturer for further testing in order to spot the (often inevitable) issues incurred during the transition from small scale prototype building to order-filling mass production. I do agree that Wolverine is one of the best in customer services and they are actively dealing with the problems that had been reported so far, however, I believe costumers and end users should be delegated as little (involuntary) R&D responsibility as possible.
 
JW127 said:
As much as I appreciate the effort by Wolverine and Kodiak, I had concerns before this rifle went into production as I was surprised by the presumably small and most likely insufficient number of prototypes involved in testing and evaluation. Through the course of development, designers and manufacturers would usually make quite a number of prototypes from the initial function test unit to the point of design/tooling freeze, as they kept improving the design and ironing out problems. Then the first batch of products are usually kept by the manufacturer for further testing in order to spot the (often inevitable) issues incurred during the transition from small scale prototype building to order-filling mass production. I do agree that Wolverine is one of the best in customer services and they are actively dealing with the problems that had been reported so far, however, I believe costumers and end users should be delegated as little (involuntary) R&D responsibility as possible.
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They have at least 11 guns for testing... I think they had 2 or 3 for testing before production began and kept the first 10 rifles for testing and evaluation as well as for media purposes etc, so there are quite a few.
 
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driller212 said:
They have at least 11 guns for testing... I think they had 2 or 3 for testing before production began and kept the first 10 rifles for testing and evaluation as well as for media purposes etc, so there are quite a few.
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Yes, your are right. Having only 2 or 3 for testing before production has likely caused the problems we are seeing.
 
JW127 said:
Yes, your are right. Having only 2 or 3 for testing before production has likely caused the problems we are seeing.
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As long as your production process is consistent they will all be the same so it doesn't matter IMO. People are being way too harsh. Every new manufactured firearm design I have ever seen had some teething issues for the first couple of years. Wolverine has great customer service and will fix any issue at no cost to the customer within warranty terms. I am not worried a bit about it. This is a toy, not some battle rifle, my life doesn't depend on its function, so being within the first hundred rifles or so doesn't phase me at all. People on here are so melodramatic.
 
driller212 said:
As long as your production process is consistent they will all be the same so it doesn't matter IMO. People are being way too harsh. Every new manufactured firearm design I have ever seen had some teething issues for the first couple of years. Wolverine has great customer service and will fix any issue at no cost to the customer within warranty terms. I am not worried a bit about it. This is a toy, not some battle rifle, my life doesn't depend on its function, so being within the first hundred rifles or so doesn't phase me at all. People on here are so melodramatic.
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Totally okay with that.
 
So, trying to point out possibly cause of problems through fact-based, unbiased discussion is being melodramatic? Give me a break. People on here are so sensitive.
 
You payed $1000 for a non-restricted .223/5.56 semi-automatic rifle...

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One out of an initial batch that has a bad trigger. Big deal. Get it fixed. You didn't buy a friggen mass produced rifle from a multi-million/billion, multi-national manufacturer with the green-backs for extensive R&D. Get a grip.
 
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