WK180 or SKS ??? Pros/cons

SKS or WK180 ???

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archer2u said:
SKS length of pull tends to be too small for me like a child’s gun.
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Generally speaking, Russians are physically as large as North Western Europeans. The Chinese versions were built off Russian templates, so if you're suggesting the platform is designed for smaller Asians, you're simply incorrect.

The LoP is fine if you square your shoulders to the target. Actually, a tad long if you're wearing thick ceramic plates in a carrier over say, a coat.
 
Just buy an SKS.

Do note it will not be cheap to shoot at your indoor range or at steel targets as the only cheap 7.62x39 is steel core. But 223 is not super cheap at the moment either.

I barely shoot my 7.62x39s for this reason. But the WKs are overpriced garbage.
 
Zortron said:
Just buy an SKS.

Do note it will not be cheap to shoot at your indoor range or at steel targets as the only cheap 7.62x39 is steel core. But 223 is not super cheap at the moment either.

I barely shoot my 7.62x39s for this reason. But the WKs are overpriced garbage.
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Well it’s much cheaper than shooting my 30-30 lol. 200rnds of 30-30 is 264$ for federal. Sellier and bellot 500rnds is 799$ lol. I’ve seen 762 for cheaper and twice the rounds.
 
You may want to consider the Type 81 SR. It is on sale for $999. If you don't like the Dragonv-stock, Signaco Canada makes an adapter for the use of an AR buffer tube and pistol grip. You have the option of saving money with no optic, or getting a Russian side mount optic, or a 1913 rail, for extra dollars. Unlike the SKS, it has detachable mags out if the box , with similar reliability. Just make sure you'll buy new to get the Gen 2 stock, or ensure it had replaced or request a replacement from TI if it has yet to be swapped when buying used.
 
SigWig said:
If you plan on modding the sks then it isn't what your after. They can't be improved with the aftermarket junk out there. The frame isn't designed for optics either.

Go type 81 tactical imports
They have a 10 mag pack for $269

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-INSANE-CLEARANCE-Last-Shipment-of-Type-81-SR
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Well I don’t really like the style of the type 81, I’d prefer sks over it. The sks aftermarket stocks have a optic rail you can install that protects the optic from ejection of brass. The aftermarket stock is to just make it a tad bit lighter then a heavy bold wooden stock nothing more
 
Battle proven will always win against a rifle made specifically for civilian use. Especially a rifle that is built using every cost cutting measure possible.
 
saskcop said:
Battle proven will always win against a rifle made specifically for civilian use. Especially a rifle that is built using every cost cutting measure possible.
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That’s what I was also thinking about last night as well as my dad agreed as well. What does shooting corrosive rounds do ?? Possible hang fire ? obviously make the rifle more dirty when shooting, Any other affects of so ??
 
BrownR said:
Well there is a local indoor range but it’s only 25yrds, my outdoor shooting would be big steel plates hanging from some 2x6.
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Most (All?) surplus/cheap 7.62x39 is steel core. Many (Most? All?) indoor ranges won't allow it, and you DEFINITELY don't want to be shooting steel with it. The majority of .223/5.56 is lead core, unless you specifically buy green tip 5.56 (Which is less common, and more expensive).

Based on what you're planning on doing, I'd say a .223 rifle is what you're looking for. But maybe look into a BCL Siberian, or a Sterling MK18/Bren 2 if you want to spend a bit more. Not a fan of the WKs, they had a lot of problems early. They've fixed some of them with the gen 2 guns, so if you want a WK, make sure you avoid the gen 1s.
 
Zortron said:
Just buy an SKS.

Do note it will not be cheap to shoot at your indoor range or at steel targets as the only cheap 7.62x39 is steel core. But 223 is not super cheap at the moment either.

I barely shoot my 7.62x39s for this reason. But the WKs are overpriced garbage.
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Don’t shoot cheap steel plates, 3/8” AR500 I’ve been shooting for near 10 years holds up fine against x39 or x54r steel core ammo.
 
Scotty454 said:
Most (All?) surplus/cheap 7.62x39 is steel core. Many (Most? All?) indoor ranges won't allow it, and you DEFINITELY don't want to be shooting steel with it. The majority of .223/5.56 is lead core, unless you specifically buy green tip 5.56 (Which is less common, and more expensive).

Based on what you're planning on doing, I'd say a .223 rifle is what you're looking for. But maybe look into a BCL Siberian, or a Sterling MK18/Bren 2 if you want to spend a bit more. Not a fan of the WKs, they had a lot of problems early. They've fixed some of them with the gen 2 guns, so if you want a WK, make sure you avoid the gen 1s.
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Yes I’m planning to stay clear of the wk’s for the issues they tend to have from what I have heard and found of online. I have seen similar rifles but a lot more money lol. 762 and 223/556 bulk ammo seems to be around same price in my area here as well
 
as barney/tactical teacher used to say about the M305/M14S , I will repeat those words about the SKS...... "Don't Buy One..... Buy Two!!"
Buy one as a shooter and leave one in the box as either a spare parts rifle or just to stash away for the future. They can only go up in value.
Having followed the "180" production from the various entities producing them in Canada , those rifles are a hard pass for me. I would like to support Canadian manufacturers but in the case of those rifles I do not think it is money wisely spent. That is my opinion and others are very valid too.

The sks is a fun rifle and has proven itself worthy to be in the collections of Canadian sport shooters and hunters and even a few collectors. Can't really go wrong in buying one or two
 
Evanguy said:
The sks is one hell of a rifle and I've own a few and love them. I know for sure there is no better semi auto for the price. But now that they are coming onto $600, the extra $400 to get a used (the sks is used too) wk180 seems worth it to me. Just for the fit and finish. The lop on an sks is way short so they suck to hold and with all the gear on the muzzle they balance like holding a 6' 2x4 as a rifle.

I'm all for the sks and always defend them but really. Try holding the 2 rifles. One goes bang and the other handles like a glove

I'd take a $350 sks over a $1200 180 but when the sks is above $500 I'd pick the 180. I've seen many 180 gen 2 for less then 1200 and not many sks for less then $500

When the sks was the best rifle hands down is when it cost under 300 for a mint one. Cabelas use to have them for 189 and came with ammo
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A slip on recoil pad helps greatly with LOP, and you can always take the bayonet off to take some weight off the front.


I would go SKS, less money lost when the Libs ban all semi autos, plus if the OPs range is only 25yds the accuracy limitations on the sks won't come into play.

Although if he's using an indoor range I wonder about their ammo policy - a lot of indoor ranges don't allow steel jacketed ammo and that would greatly impact the OPs goal of cheap bulk ammo, as all surplus I've ever used plus Norinco non corrosive stuff will fail the magnet test.

Butcherbill said:
Don’t shoot cheap steel plates, 3/8” AR500 I’ve been shooting for near 10 years holds up fine against x39 or x54r steel core ammo.
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Steel core or jacketed?
 
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