WK180C Gen 2 or something else?

CUSTOM441 said:
I can appreciate that folks are recommending $3k rifles, and I'm sure they are the superior firearms. I wasn't considering spending that much $, but I really don't want to fiddle around with something new and buy spare parts in advance. Like I said, I'll wait and see how folks make out with their Gen 2's and go from there.



Happy to hear you love your FX9! They look like handy, fun shooters - non-restricted too! It would share ammo with my pistol, so that's a bonus. Have you ever fed yours reloads? Any issues?
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I haven't put reloads through mine...I don't reload myself (yet) but have been on the prowl for factory reloads to try. I haven't tried aluminum either only because the manual does not recommend it.
 
BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
It is the point.

Being a mechanic, I hear all the excuses of the machinery not working, all because the owners are total end-users, that don't do a lick of anything, to maintain their machines.

The first thing I did to my Kodiak Gen-1, was totally dissassemble it, and re-build it propperly. It has worked flawlessly it's whole life so far.

Point is, wheather a low-cost or high-dollar machine, they must be maintained propperly. Every machine I own, is stripped down and re-built by me. I am the warranty.
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What's it like doing a complete frame off rebuild every time you buy a new daily? Sounds like a time consuming process.
 
BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
It is the point.

Being a mechanic, I hear all the excuses of the machinery not working, all because the owners are total end-users, that don't do a lick of anything, to maintain their machines.

The first thing I did to my Kodiak Gen-1, was totally dissassemble it, and re-build it propperly. It has worked flawlessly it's whole life so far.

Point is, wheather a low-cost or high-dollar machine, they must be maintained propperly. Every machine I own, is stripped down and re-built by me. I am the warranty.
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Imagine buying a brand new car and getting told "it will run better after you take the time to tighten all the bolts we left from factory". The metric people use to justify their garbage rod purchases are astounding, what a cope. I don't care if i'm spending 1600 or 4000 on a firearm, there is no excuse for that kind of poor quality control. You even said it yourself, you had to take it apart to rebuild it just to get it to function, the cope is astounding in this thread..
 
Loc-tite is a good product, but strict end-users often rely on something other than, checking things themselves on a routine basis. Like a mechanical form of communism. On my gas-block set-screws, I epoxy-resin them in place. I still check them now and then.
 
I've found that Relying on other people to make sure things are good, without checking them yourself, can lead to trouble. Buddy responsible for checking the engine bolts, might be in a piss mood, and not do his job to his potential. Checking for yourself eliminates that worry.

Quality control; like fact-checking or reviews, is highly subjective.
 
Well, It's time invested in my machines, so as I personally know the state of that machine.

Like my motorcycles. I only by new, so as I know exactly what the engine history is.
 
BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
It is the point.

Being a mechanic, I hear all the excuses of the machinery not working, all because the owners are total end-users, that don't do a lick of anything, to maintain their machines.

The first thing I did to my Kodiak Gen-1, was totally dissassemble it, and re-build it propperly. It has worked flawlessly it's whole life so far.

Point is, wheather a low-cost or high-dollar machine, they must be maintained propperly. Every machine I own, is stripped down and re-built by me. I am the warranty.
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Your own post confirms that the factory failed to build the rifle properly from the start and you are trying to blame the end user for this fault.

I love these zero trader feedback accounts that pop up and shill the heck out of complete garbage.

Somethings at NEA never change.

BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
Well, It's time invested in my machines, so as I personally know the state of that machine.

Like my motorcycles. I only by new, so as I know exactly what the engine history is.
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These rifles are being bought new, so you should have zero doubts about the condition and reliability of the new gun thus nullifying your statement about having to "totally dissassemble it, and re-build it propperly".

Can you at least try to make any sense?
 
Grove said:
Your own post confirms that the factory failed to build the rifle properly from the start and you are trying to blame the end user for this fault.

I love these zero trader feedback accounts that pop up and shill the heck out of complete garbage.

Somethings at NEA never change.



These rifles are being bought new, so you should have zero doubts about the condition and reliability of the new gun thus nullifying your statement about having to "totally dissassemble it, and re-build it propperly".

Can you at least try to make any sense?
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True what you say, but you've missed my point. Relying on others to make sure someting in my safe on any of my machines, could lead to disastrous consequences. Especially with a firearm. Am I gonna blame the quality control (like a victim), if I die because of something q/c missed? Or take the safety of my life by checking things for myself.

Like cooking. Eating restaurant food, someone could have put boogers in the food. When you make your own food, you know for sure.

GET IT?
 
BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
True what you say, but you've missed my point. Relying on others to make sure someting in my safe on any of my machines, could lead to disastrous consequences. Especially with a firearm. Am I gonna blame the quality control (like a victim), if I die because of something q/c missed? Or take the safety of my life by checking things for myself.

Like cooking. Eating restaurant food, someone could have put boogers in the food. When you make your own food, you know for sure.

GET IT?
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Noob take and ultra cope.
 
TIL: some mechanics buy a new car and immediately take apart the motor to ensure the piston rings are set properly and the main bearing bolts are torqued to spec. Neat
 
BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
True what you say, but you've missed my point. Relying on others to make sure someting in my safe on any of my machines, could lead to disastrous consequences. Especially with a firearm. Am I gonna blame the quality control (like a victim), if I die because of something q/c missed? Or take the safety of my life by checking things for myself.

Like cooking. Eating restaurant food, someone could have put boogers in the food. When you make your own food, you know for sure.

GET IT?
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BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
Now who's not making sense. And personal attacks? Take your maxist glasses off, and throw away your rules for radicals book!
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You continue to make idiotic post and refuse to use logic, life will remain hard for you and many more people will call you a noob because of your own actions.

Thank you for letting everyone know to put you on ignore and never deal with you, be well.
 
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BUMBLE SPECIMOODA said:
It is the point.

Being a mechanic, I hear all the excuses of the machinery not working, all because the owners are total end-users, that don't do a lick of anything, to maintain their machines.

The first thing I did to my Kodiak Gen-1, was totally dissassemble it, and re-build it propperly. It has worked flawlessly it's whole life so far.

Point is, wheather a low-cost or high-dollar machine, they must be maintained propperly. Every machine I own, is stripped down and re-built by me. I am the warranty.
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I'm gonna take a position in between two extreme views. :)

I do think the point is that screws can be tightened, but I am not completely disassembling the rifle to rebuild it. I will monitor and tighten / adjust parts as necessary to make the thing work properly. Now that I've had the upper apart and understand how it works and what is likely to come loose, I am more confident in this rifle. My barrel has been seriously dimpled so there is no chance the gas block can come loose in any manner as long as the set screws are in place. Those are easy to monitor. Also, this rifle is fairly easy to work on, which is nice.
 
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