WK180C Shorter barrel options?

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The more I handle the WK180C the more I despise that 18.7” barrel. It’s cumbersome and heavy.

I’m thinking of going for something shorter and registering it.

Has anyone looked into shorter barrel options?

It has to be carbine length has system, which shouldn’t be hard to come by. I think the ideal barrel length would be something like 11.5”.

Thoughts?
 
Are you dead set on a semi-auto? Because if it’s just an AR-style SBR you’re after, consider a manual-action receiver set like Spectre’s Light Practical Carbine or MRA’s Renegade. You can get down to at least a 12” barrel so long as the overall length is 670mm.
 
btabin said:
Are you dead set on a semi-auto? Because if it’s just an AR-style SBR you’re after, consider a manual-action receiver set like Spectre’s Light Practical Carbine or MRA’s Renegade. You can get down to at least a 12” barrel so long as the overall length is 670mm.
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You can even go for a 10" barrel, if to your collapsed stock and muzzle device together with the barrel and receiver exceed the threshold. One of the first LPC owners built their rifle with a 10" barrel.
 
btabin said:
Are you dead set on a semi-auto? Because if it’s just an AR-style SBR you’re after, consider a manual-action receiver set like Spectre’s Light Practical Carbine or MRA’s Renegade. You can get down to at least a 12” barrel so long as the overall length is 670mm.
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I’d just prefer to get a shorter barrel for the gun I have.
 
True North Arms had Maple Ridge Armory do a short run of match barrels for the 180C. Not sure what length they were - I would assume >18.5"

IBI made a 19" barrel and RWA made a mid length op rod for it. RWA no longer exists from what I can tell.

Other than that I don't know who else who has made barrels for that rifle. You would have to get someone to custom make you one then figure out how to gas it.
 
Paul_T said:
True North Arms had Maple Ridge Armory do a short run of match barrels for the 180C. Not sure what length they were - I would assume >18.5"

IBI made a 19" barrel and RWA made a mid length op rod for it. RWA no longer exists from what I can tell.

Other than that I don't know who else who has made barrels for that rifle. You would have to get someone to custom make you one then figure out how to gas it.
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Doesn’t it use a standard AR-15 barrel?
 
Virtual.Chris said:
Doesn’t it use a standard AR-15 barrel?
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Yes with the exception of gas port sizing. I did a MRA barrel with the RWA mid length op rod and the gas port in the barrel needed enlarged. It's been a while since I did it so I can't remember what size I ended up enlarging it to but there was a big difference.

The gas port on a shorter AR barrel will already be larger than the port on the 18.6" that I used so it may not need opened up at all. It's kinda just trial and error. Install the new barrel and test fire before enlarging the gas port. If it doesn't function increase port size a little bit at a time until you have proper function.
 
Talk to Kodiak, they make it so they're most likely to know what works and what doesn't.

Other than that I think you're looking at:

- Lots of money on a specific barrel
- Not being able to do anything but take it to the range
- Needing ATTs
- Having your firearm registered (which leads to confiscation)
- 2.5 inches of benefit...yay

Honestly, it'd just be easier to go for a shorter position on the adjustable stock
 
I would try with a pencil barrel first, the weight difference might be enough to make you happy.

registering a wk180 is just too sad.
 
I think the OP has two good options:

- go to the gym
- just give it to the cops right now, and save the expense and hassle of modding it
 
It comes with a pencil barrel oem.
Heavy? no, ungainly? a bit.
Try adding a bit of weight to the backend to balance it out.

Every short barrelled semi auto is currently or will be on the chopping block shortly, so consider that in your equation.
Maybe look at the <still> available no-restricted options out there - Tavor, X95 and keltec come to mind.
 
beltfed said:
It comes with a pencil barrel oem.
Heavy? no, ungainly? a bit.
Try adding a bit of weight to the backend to balance it out.

Every short barrelled semi auto is currently or will be on the chopping block shortly, so consider that in your equation.
Maybe look at the <still> available no-restricted options out there - Tavor, X95 and keltec come to mind.
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I know O.P. expressed wanting to keep his current rifle, but I tend to agree with you. My RDB-S with 20" barrel is roughly 4" shorter than my LE6920 with 16.5" barrel, I bought it explicitly because I needed something to replace my now defunct AR and it damned sure wasn't gonna be a restricted rifle this time around.
 
Bratwurst said:
Talk to Kodiak, they make it so they're most likely to know what works and what doesn't.

Other than that I think you're looking at:

- Lots of money on a specific barrel
- Not being able to do anything but take it to the range
- Needing ATTs
- Having your firearm registered (which leads to confiscation)
- 2.5 inches of benefit...yay

Honestly, it'd just be easier to go for a shorter position on the adjustable stock
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I’ll talk to Kodiak. If it takes AR-15 barrels, it shouldn’t be hard to source one. In Canada, there are very few AR-15 rifles that anyone will be buying a barrel for these days. But that could work against me I guess if no one is bringing in stock. As for registering it, I have no where else to shoot it other than the range anyway so that’s not really a concern. And when the WK180C ends up on a ban list, I doubt any particular barrel length will save or doom it.
 
I think the thing that everybody on here is dancing around and doesn’t want to say: By doing this and creating a restricted out of a previously non-restricted rifle that has so far managed to avoid the bans, there’s a good chance you could screw over every other WK-180C owner out there, along with the companies that are manufacturing this, or similar firearms.

Basically........don’t be THAT guy
 
KePet said:
I think the thing that everybody on here is dancing around and doesn’t want to say: By doing this and creating a restricted out of a previously non-restricted rifle that has so far managed to avoid the bans, there’s a good chance you could screw over every other WK-180C owner out there, along with the companies that are manufacturing this, or similar firearms.

Basically........don’t be THAT guy
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Well, if that’s potentiallly true, and not FUD, I certainly won’t be that guy. I value owning a rifle like the WK180C even with its overly long barrel. I would hate to see it get banned and I would be just as outraged as anyone.

However, this discussion begs the question... how did it not get banned in the OIC in May? Was it an over sight? A conscious decision? And if the latter, was it just because it was non-restricted? If so, how did the STAG get banned? It seems rather arbitrary.
 
That question can’t really be answered. Low numbers? Didn’t come up on anybody’s radar? A variant of a rifle that’s always been non-restricted? Really no answer other than the minds of BLiar, and Captain Happy Socks, and we really don’t want to go there. Having said all that, the Horsemen could prohib this tomorrow, or next week, or never. Kind of a tense and scary time to be a gun owner.

Stag 10 probably got it because it definitely looks like an AR, and some in the establishment have been truly pisses about the fact that they managed to be classed as non-restricted. They’ve been seriously pissed about a lot that have come out in the last 5-10 years.
 
It’s foolish to think the people making the ban list don’t already know just as much as we all do.
Why this never made the list, or had its frt changed illegally is anyone’s guess.
 
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