Wolf Bullets (reloaded in kingston)

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Any one buy some wolf bullets recently???? (the reloaded ammo made in kingston)

I bought 0.45 TMJ for my 1911 and almost every single one jammed in the gun. After taking it apart, I placed a cartridge in the barell and it doesnt fit all the way into the chamber (about 1mm sticking out), so it seems the slide jams the cartridge in the chamber and then as it expands it makes it really difficult to extract (use force)

The gun is brand new so im not sure if its a break in period thing, but with the commercial ammo I have, the bullets fit perfectly.
 
Purchased a thousand rounds a few months back, maybe a bit farther back, but have had no issues so far with the ammo, used up 3 boxes and 2 different guns, same caliber, XD 45 and a TRP 1911, in 45 as well
 
could be a tight or dirty chamber, short chamber, or the round is not to specs. the round could have an OAL length issue with your barrel, or the cast size bullet that doesn't agree with your gun

having said all that, never found a problem with wolfs stuff. Always found it loaded to size properly.

the picture bellow is in regards to OAL , and bullet seating. might help.

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I also bought a 1000 rounds so thats why im concerned.

here is a factory winchester round in the barrel (sitting pretty flush):
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and here is the wolf in the barrel (sticking out):
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I have also done some measurements with a caliper of the barrel and cartridges:
winchester dimensions:
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wolf dimensions:
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-the winchester bullet seems to be smaller then the wolf
-winchester has larger diameter at the base then the mouth
-wolf has larger diameter at the mouth rather then the base (seems odd)

-chamber length in barrel is 0.889

-checked both Lyman and Hornady reloading books and the dimensions of both cartridges are still within the maximum specs

Any further insight into my problem would be really appreciated!
 
With a .005" difference, it's little surprise that one or the other is off, your chamber may be tighter then some, I doubt that the bullets are more then .001" difference. Either the reloads are using thicker brass or they aren't taper crimped enough. I wouldn't mess around, I'd sell those reloads to someone who can fit them in their chamber or return for refund.
 
ben hunchak said:
With a .005" difference, it's little surprise that one or the other is off, your chamber may be tighter then some, I doubt that the bullets are more then .001" difference. Either the reloads are using thicker brass or they aren't taper crimped enough. I wouldn't mess around, I'd sell those reloads to someone who can fit them in their chamber or return for refund.
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Im thinking they arent taper crimped enough or the chamber is tighter.
Not sure if I can return them, but might be able to sell. Worst comes to worst, ill be getting reloading equipment soon and ill resize the cartridges so they fit; it will take time but what can you do.....

SUPERMAG said:
Contact Ryan
the Winchester factory dia seems about 4-5 1000 undersized ???
should be .450-.451 for FMJ up to .452 for plated Maybe recheck dia????

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Who exactly is ryan? is he the one manufacturing them?

I rechecked 5 more random winchester FMJ bullets and the diameter ranges from 0.442 to 0.447
 
Drop me a pm if you want and I'll try to get it sorted out for you. Did you order them from me?

Ryan
 
I'd like to chime in here ... I bought 500 rnds of wolf TMJ 9mm (from Ryan) and they FTF and FTE in my Sig, several rounds have the bullet seated way too short and some of the cartridges have no powder in them at all.

Is this a known problem Ryan? The boxes I got have no label on them (white box)
 
Danimal247 said:
I'd like to chime in here ... I bought 500 rnds of wolf TMJ 9mm (from Ryan) and they FTF and FTE in my Sig, several rounds have the bullet seated way too short and some of the cartridges have no powder in them at all.

Is this a known problem Ryan? The boxes I got have no label on them (white box)
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TMJ bullets are often difficult to work with, depending on the quality and consistancy. The bullet seating dies make contact with either the tip of the bullet, ogive (the curved section). As the TMJ bullets tend to be swaged lead cores, plated with copper then sometimes resized, there is some variation in the shape of the bullet tip. Some round nose bullet are slightly flattened in sizing, and some manufacturers have more than one swaging die forming the lead core. OAL of the loaded round tends to vary more than compareable jacketed bullet.

The symptoms the OP describe sound like brass that is swollen ahead of the extractor groove, just below where the sizing die can reach. If it was anyone elses ammo, I'd suggest the brass needed to be rollsized. However, I am under the impression that Wolf has a commercial grade roll sizer like the Scharch or MagmaEng so that should not be a problem.
 
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Not sure about the labels, I know a few cases went out that way...ran out of labels I think. Drop me an email with your order #, name etc and we'll fix you up. As well please provide any info you can about the issues so I can pass them on to Wolf.

Ryan

Danimal247 said:
I'd like to chime in here ... I bought 500 rnds of wolf TMJ 9mm (from Ryan) and they FTF and FTE in my Sig, several rounds have the bullet seated way too short and some of the cartridges have no powder in them at all.

Is this a known problem Ryan? The boxes I got have no label on them (white box)
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I routinely buy WOLF ammo for revolver, with consistently good results. Not factory ammo performance, but good enough for me, especially considering the deep price discount.

For my semis, however, I stick to factory ammo, since the tolerances evidently are far more narrow than WOLF ammo can handle with any consistency. Some semis may be more tolerant – mine aren’t.
 
Checking your ammunition with a (minimum-chamber) case gauge - prior to your loading it into the magazine or cylinder - eliminates that particular variable, may improve your firearms' feeding reliability, and improves your confidence.

I highly recommend it.

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Dillon handgun case gages allow you to check your handgun ammunition to ensure it will fit a minimum sized chamber. Made of stainless steel for long life.

$13.95

http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/pid/25548/catid/3/Dillon_Handgun_Case_Gages
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Make sure all your ammo is in spec before you shoot that critical match. EGW tool lets you check four popular calibers used in practical shooting matches: 9mm, .38 Super, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP. Helps you avoid jams, misfires, feeding problems, and other malfunctions caused by out-of-spec ammo that can cost you precious points—or the whole match. Machined aluminum with check holes precision bored using the same high-quality Clymer reamers EGW chambers its barrels with.

$21.95

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=27424/Product/4_CALIBER_CARTRIDGE_CHECKER
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purchased 1000 rounds of 9mm, .40sw, and .45 from wolf directly a while back, shot most the .40s with 0 issues, shot about 100 9mm no issues, but with no .45cal gun, im now worried if my .45s are bunked too.

does he warranty his work?
 
wolf is normally pretty consistent. Out of 1000 there may be one or two with loose bullets however i find the primers rather hard. My CZ didn't like them. Sold them to a CGNer who was happy with them. I preferred Canadian BDX when Kurt would actually reliably send his orders. However giving a credit card order for 2 cases of ammo and never receiving product or an email ended that plan.
 
The issue with them not feeding in CZ's is resolved. The projectile manufacturer changed the profile without informing anyone. Wolf is now using a different projectile.
 
My glock 9mm loves this stuff. One FTF after 3000 rds, zero FTE. The FTF had a striker indent, was put back in and discharged. Overall im happy.
 
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