Lee Enfield
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- Location
- Republic of Alberta
Every time a wild animal attacks a human, "they" always say ..."it's the only time it's ever happened..."
Well I didn't notice the thread was that old...
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Wolf Defence... coyotes for the easterners
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Well I didn't notice the thread was that old...
20 years ago I was getting a bucket of water from the creek about 100 yards away from my cabin. My dog was with me and he was well trained to stay away from the waterhole for reason of cleanliness. I am fussing around the waterhole and suddenly the dog is tight against my leg. I look down at him and he is staring intently into the woods. 30 feet away behind a light cover of willows 2 wolves are staring back. As soon as they realized I was looking at them they were gone. Was not a comfortable encounter. Subsequently lost a dog to wolves in 2017.
Brutus
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-About a decade ago a man was attacked and killed Uranium City, Saskatchewan
-1950s railway employees in Northern Ontario attacked by a large wolf. Only reason they lived there was four workers with shovels and picks
-Alaskan letter carrier on a frozen lake beset by wolf pack only reason he lived he was packing a Colt 1873 Peacemaker (1930s?)
I posted a link to a news video earlier in this thread, its not for the squeamish, but shows a pack of domestic dogs killing a man, in pretty quick order.
With the media covering superpacks again, it seems like hard winters are when most of the crazier wolf attacks happen, which seems to explain why alot of more fair weather hunters seem oblivious to packs.
Often wondered if the older Boys Own Adventures type tales were true and you only have to shoot one member of a wolf pack that's on your trail to have all the others stop to devour it. Kind of made them seem like sharks rather than the family loving mammals we're told about these days. In my day, most of those stories came from England , where the largest predator was and still is the red fox.
Also wonder why all the Russians who got chased across the steppes in their troikas didn't have a firearm to plug some of them. I mean, if you were rich enough to own a sleigh and team, surely you had the pull to at least get a shotgun.
Also wonder why all the Russians who got chased across the steppes in their troikas didn't have a firearm to plug some of them. I mean, if you were rich enough to own a sleigh and team, surely you had the pull to at least get a shotgun.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
South of Hudson Bay, Sask. - hunting elk. Sitting with my back against three birch trees. First time carrying binoculars in the bush - I was overlooking Etomami River which might be 50 feet across at that point. Passing the time - very nice day, scanning opposite bush - a wolf face - way back in there. She had me cold - from 120 or more yards away in that bush. I say "she" because about 15 minutes later, two pups came tumbling down the opposite bank and started rolling over rocks in the flowing river - catching cray fish I presume - I was watching them and then looked up the bank - Momma was on top and if looks could kill, I would still be laying there!!
Not really too concerned with a wolf attack. I was walking through a jack pine burn once and saw something black less than a hundred yards away. There was lots of trees down and stumps on their side so I squatted down trying to see better, thinking it was a bear. Suddenly, seeing me down low and moving while trying to get a better look, it ran towards me. Not a bear but a black wolf. I dropped my rifle and was frantically digging in my pocket for my camera when it must have scented me because it took off running in the opposite direction.
Once in the morning my wife heard something and went outside to find our female husky playing with a pack of five wolves. This was in October. They took off with our dog after them and ignored my wife calling her back. When I went out I tried as well but she ran full speed after the pack. I thought for sure they were killing her judging from the racket a short distance away but out of sight. Suddenly she came back running and limping. They made it plain to her that she wasn't welcome to go with them but was not really injured.
I know they'll kill dogs at times but certainly not always.
Another time in the summer my wife heard whining while in the cabin. Thinking it was our dog she looked out to see a wolf down the hill. It was then that we realized why our husky had been so tired the past several nights that was making her sleep through the day. She had a playmate that was calling her out.
We've had lone wolves at our cabin and packs come through as well and there's always tracks around.
Other than the trail cam pics, I took the others from our cabin window.
Here's five on a trail camera about 25-30 yards from the cabin. It's where I was putting marten carcasses.
Also by the cabin
Full sized bic lighter for scale
Once in the morning my wife heard something and went outside to find our female husky playing with a pack of five wolves. This was in October. They took off with our dog after them and ignored my wife calling her back. When I went out I tried as well but she ran full speed after the pack. I thought for sure they were killing her judging from the racket a short distance away but out of sight. Suddenly she came back running and limping. They made it plain to her that she wasn't welcome to go with them but was not really injured.
I know they'll kill dogs at times but certainly not always.
Another time in the summer my wife heard whining while in the cabin. Thinking it was our dog she looked out to see a wolf down the hill. It was then that we realized why our husky had been so tired the past several nights that was making her sleep through the day. She had a playmate that was calling her out.
We've had lone wolves at our cabin and packs come through as well and there's always tracks around.
Other than the trail cam pics, I took the others from our cabin window.
Here's five on a trail camera about 25-30 yards from the cabin. It's where I was putting marten carcasses.
Also by the cabin
Full sized bic lighter for scale
I follow a Finnish Karelian bear dog site quite regularly. The Finns lose quite a few dogs to wolves and they posted a security cam video of someones yard showing a lone wolf taking a tethered KBD. The wolf approached slowly in plain view head down, tail down in very submissive posture and walked up to the KBD making like "lets be friends" until within striking range then grabbed the dog by the throat and it was over tail went stiff then limp. Done. Local outfitters used to tell me about wolves luring dogs out and I was hesitant to believe until I saw this. Always thought they would hunt dogs given the chance but a deceptive maneuver like this seemed a little far fetched to me.
Great photos bb07.
Great photos bb07.
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- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
Because I live in the Algonquin park area, we are not allowed to shoot Wolves/coyotes/crossbreeds. Lefties have managed to ban it. They claim it's an endangered species. But the evidence says, they are all cross bred wolf/coyote/dog.
Lots around here, hear them howling at night, and sometimes in daylight. I hear coyotes yipping too.
My neighbor to the north says he always carries his axe. He claims to have been pursued by a pack a few years ago, and was rescued when he reached the road, by a passing truck.
Personally, I've seen three in the past five years, all while hunting other stuff. They are regulars on my trail cams.
Lots around here, hear them howling at night, and sometimes in daylight. I hear coyotes yipping too.
My neighbor to the north says he always carries his axe. He claims to have been pursued by a pack a few years ago, and was rescued when he reached the road, by a passing truck.
Personally, I've seen three in the past five years, all while hunting other stuff. They are regulars on my trail cams.
I feel like coyotes would pose as much of a threat as hungry elementary school children. I hear them all the time out back in large numbers, cackling around and coyote'ing but they always keep well enough away. I read stories of them actively hunting people, is that a different species of just a different pack/regional behavior?
Think you would embrace the idea pretty quick when you run out of ammo and the wolves keep comin'.
My most interesting wolf experience mirrors one mentioned in an earlier post. Wolf tracks over my tracks. They got close, and I hadn't realized it until I got tired of the deep snow and doubled back.
Now I hunt them. Longest open season of any big game species where I am. I make use of the time.
Now I hunt them. Longest open season of any big game species where I am. I make use of the time.
I can verify that. Last year bow hunting 2 miles north of Havelock 4 corners I had 5 different wolves(all different colors) cross in front of me in a weeks time at less than 50 yards each time. Definitely a lot larger than a yote. My buddy shot a doe on day 3. On day 5 I had a wolf cross on front of me at around 20-25 yds at 3 pm. As I was just getting out of my ground blind 2 started howling where the gut pile was(about 150 yds from me).Was still light enough to see clearly. It was about 100 yds in the opposite direction to my atv. As I walked to the atv one more started howling north of me and 2 started howling in the direction of the 4 wheeler. I had a crossbow. Not a good feeling.
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we had charplaninats and tornjak and i want to see a wolf doing that to a breed trained to love sheep. we never lost a sheep due to bear or wolf in all my time. one of my cousin still taking care of sheep with no issues but those dogs are not pet ...
pretty sure if the finns had more than a few dogs together the story wont be same ...
why bring a knife in a gunfight lol ...
Because it was archery only moose and deer season.LOL
Gun would have been my choice after I saw the first one. Plus there is a ban on shooting them and coyotes in that area or I would have shot every one of them. One walked 10 feet from the shack I was sitting in on day 1. Don't think he even knew I was there.
Living in NW Ont. on a remote property we got everything here on the property as I am next to hundreds of sq. miles of crown. The Timber (Gray) wolves are plentiful and always around. I get them on the trail cams weekly year round. When I first moved here I shot a deer just behind the barn. I cleaned it and took it up to the garage, returned 16 min later to fetch the heart and liver and the whole gut pile was gone, totally gone, just a blood spot on the ground and a few wolf tracks. A bit scary to think they are aware and close enough to take advantage on short notice.
I hunt them, and not ashamed to say unsuccessfully thus far. They are by far the most intelligent, wary, have very astute memories, and the most difficult animal we have to hunt and trap. Because of that incident I have no doubts that if one was injured in the bush and vunerable with wolves around they would attempt to take advantage of your situation.
But over all I find the wolves and bears that I live amongst to be just as mind full of me as I of them. I at times I carry the little Ruger 44 carbine. and in winter the M-70 in .243 if around the open areas, but I certainly do not loose any sleep over having them around.
I hunt them, and not ashamed to say unsuccessfully thus far. They are by far the most intelligent, wary, have very astute memories, and the most difficult animal we have to hunt and trap. Because of that incident I have no doubts that if one was injured in the bush and vunerable with wolves around they would attempt to take advantage of your situation.
But over all I find the wolves and bears that I live amongst to be just as mind full of me as I of them. I at times I carry the little Ruger 44 carbine. and in winter the M-70 in .243 if around the open areas, but I certainly do not loose any sleep over having them around.
Trimmer 905
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Check your boundaries. If you're hunting "two miles north of the four corners",in that area,every wolf/coyote can be taken out. I have friends who have a huge camp north of Round Lake who are still well south of the boundary. They kill ever one they see averaging 20 -30 savable pelts every year. Last year,they made enough money from pelt sales that paid for the camp propane for the entire season.
Good to know. Was hunting by Menzies road east side of 46.
