Wolverine on the Hill....

[tony9000]

In my experience we have seen that the vast majority of firearm owners are not really bothered about getting involved, they don't know and don't care and they will shop for the cheapest price often even ignoring Canadian businesses, so no wonder our industry is weak and divided.

alot of the lack of effort, is us being beat down, we try, and loose, we get a good goverment, and they only fix 1% damage to us by the previous.

2 steps forward, 1 step back, we just keep loosing.

but i will continue, to sign petitions, donate where nesssisary, vote always. and support any business like yours who supports us.

Thank you wolverine

 

[uAJollyRogering]

In my experience we have seen that the vast majority of firearm owners are not really bothered about getting involved, they don't know and don't care and they will shop for the cheapest price often even ignoring Canadian businesses, so no wonder our industry is weak and divided.

Sounds like you'll just have to keep producing innovative new products that Canadians want to buy more than Chinese crap. I'm looking very much forward to my WK180, and keeping a curious eye out for UTE updates.

 

[mr.fatstacks]

alot of the lack of effort, is us being beat down, we try, and loose, we get a good goverment, and they only fix 1% damage to us by the previous.

2 steps forward, 1 step back, we just keep loosing.

but i will continue, to sign petitions, donate where nesssisary, vote always. and support any business like yours who supports us.

Thank you wolverine

I think this is relevant. John, you said yourself that you feel as though no matter what you said or did the bill will go through anyway. I think a lot of us feel that way: I’ve written letters, signed petitions and donated money with very little apparent results. I’m not about to give up the fight, however I honestly don’t feel as though I’m making a difference at all.

 

[Steve_B]

Honestly the problem really isn’t gun owners or businesses and it’s not politicians.
It’s the media.
There’s no mechanism for us to compel a government with the seats to drop or change this. Our democracy only really occurs every election cycle.
Our only avenue to affect policy is intimidation, making them think twice.

With this (relatively) massive petition, and letter writing campaign and our voice coalescing into an actual Canadian grass-roots gun lobby, we have what it takes.... but the media denies there’s a story here.
The media mutes us.
80,000 citizens are outraged but it’s a non-event if it doesn’t break into the broader popular consciousness thru being reported.
The media doesn’t report news, they make the news.
Politicians of all stripes are reactive. They couldn’t tell you what ice cream they like without consulting a poll.
We need to be that poll. 75 survivors made the news while we’re overlooked.

Sorry but until we’re The News, nothing changes.

 

[BlackVoid]

...We need to be that poll. 75 survivors made the news while we’re overlooked.

Sorry but until we’re The News, nothing changes.

You just answered your own question. Just make a logic connection between 2 sentences. But we still have too much to lose to go that route.

 

[Steve_B]

Well I really didn’t ask any question.

If you think we have too much to lose by having the media tell our story then we’re done.
If not this government then the next or the one after, until everything’s prohibited.

 

[uAJollyRogering]

Honestly the best thing to do now is get young women involved in shooting sports. Social Media posts with big smiles and proper safety, change the perceived face of the sport and make a lot more difficult for the CBC to paint with broad strokes.

 

[M16LR.50]

Honestly the best thing to do now is get young women involved in shooting sports. Social Media posts with big smiles and proper safety, change the perceived face of the sport and make a lot more difficult for the CBC to paint with broad strokes.

Yes and No. The media used to harp on "ole white male" and "redneck" to stigmatize shooters. Then IPSC, IDPA and hunting became a little more accessible and immigrant Canadians (otherwise referred as visible minority) steadily increased their participation in shooting sports. Now, they cannot play the race card (white, or any ethnicity) or even the gender card. That has not stopped them from finding new angles to attack. So yes, we need more women involved, but we also need groups they are afraid of touching such as our first Nations brothers and sisters.

Matter of fact, if our organizations had spent the last ten years getting 10% of all action shooting members to be from FNs and genuinely building a relationship & supporting their challenges we would be 3 steps ahead.

 

[BlackVoid]

Well I really dIf you think we have too much to lose by having the media tell our story then we’re done.

If i had a terminal cancer, I would go to Parliament Hill, make a public statement, dose myself in gasoline and light the match. I bet your ass it's gonna make the news.

Anything else? good luck trying to get through to what is essentially a Marxist propaganda machine financed by the government and not a media in "classic western" sense.

 

[Meroh]

If i had a terminal cancer, I would go to Parliament Hill, make a public statement, dose myself in gasoline and light the match. I bet your ass it's gonna make the news.

Anything else? good luck trying to get through to what is essentially a Marxist propaganda machine financed by the government and not a media in "classic western" sense.

... and you would be just another nut-case with a gun as far as the liberals and media are concerned.

 

[westrifle_sks]

Thank you John

 

[Switch540]

Firstly there is not a massive backlash against this Bill. There are 6,000 Licensed Firearm Business Dealers and 2.1 million PAL holders the "Backlash" is pitiful, anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional! Wolverine Supplies was the only Firearms Business to make a presentation to the Committee, what does that tell us? Only 70 Briefs presented in total.

As for the Committee members, only one has a PAL, one other had some firearms training as a youngster. One admitted to have never heard of the FRT and I suspect none of the others had heard of it before and understood what an FRT was. We didn't have enough time to explain this. So here we have a Committee about to give total control for firearms classification to the RCMP, with out appeal yet they do not understand how the current system works.

We were commended on a well written and researched Brief but I feel our efforts were seen as the total representation from the Firearms Business community and basically it was to little to late.

I don't think we will have made any difference but I least Wolverine tried.

This Bill is going to pass unless there is indeed massive opposition but I am not optimistic this is going to happen.

Get ready to loose all semi auto firearms, it is only a matter of time.

Well, Obviously I was speaking in relative terms. The push back on this bill has been significantly higher than any previuos bill , even tho it is being kept quiet by the MSM. Yes on a general scale it is small.