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PaulT

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Hi guys,

I was at a verificator's house tonight and the guy has a rifle to sell.

First of all. I have many rifles and probably don't need another one right now but............

It is a Marlin lever 45-70govt 4 shot tubular mag with buckhorn rear sight and slim brass front sight with original thin hard recoil pad, nothing like the ones that comes with the new rifles. The rifling doesn't have 6 groove but multiple grooves, at least double of them, he told me the term employed to describe it but I can't remember, was holding the rifle and my mind fluttered a bit as I was seeing myself using that rifle and I missed what he was saying..

Don't know anything about these rifles as I never owned either a lever gun and/or 45-70govt cal. She just looks so nice and felt just right in my hands. It is not a new gun but near mint condition. Don't know the model; think it's something like 18?? or 88?

Price asked --BOUGHT IT--$450 including dies bullet mould and couple of brass. I think it is a good price but what do you guys think? Do these Marlin lever rifles work well? What is the range of the 45-70govt and how about the recoil on these big bore? Any problems hunting moose with these? How about accuracy?

All info is welcomed as I need to give him my answer later this week...

Thanks

PaulT
 
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Amphibious said:
buy it. best damn lever gun ever made in the best lever gun caliber ever :D
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Fully agreed! I own one and love mine. Have had it for quite a few years and wouldnt hesitate to kill anything with it within a reasonable range of course.

Recoil? I would only worry about the recoil from a 45/70 if you wear pink panties and cant shoot worth a #### with a .22.

Buy it, have fun, and kill all sorts of game with it. Endless load options with a 45/70.

Good luck :D
 
Micro groove is a type of shallow depth rifling... it is awesome for accuracy with copper jacket and factory hunting bullets... there are some issues with excess leading when pushing lead cast bullets too fast down micro groove barrels... nothing to worry about.
 
Sounds like you bought an 1895 SS. The Microgrooving is said to poorly stabilize cast bullets and be prone to excessive leading. But Honestly, if you clean your gun often, you'll likely never see a problem...
Just dont use as hot of loads with the cast bullets as you would with jacketed bullets, and you'll be has happy as a pig in #### :)
 
PaulT said:
Hi guys,

with original thin hard recoil pad, nothing like the ones that comes with the new rifles

PaulT
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Congradulations PaulT! Nice score. Say, does this rifle by chance have a straight grip (the lever fits flat against the rifle)? Or is it pistol grip (the lever is curved to meet the rifle)?
 
Kilo Charlie said:
According to Chuck Hawks' recoil table, recoil shooting 300-grain factory ammo is just a bit more than a .30-06 shooting 180-grain bullets. More like a .35 Whelen.
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Chuck Hawk doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground than:D .
my 06 semi recoils harder than my guide gun does with factory ammo. Much more. And I'd have to say harder than any SS, or 1886 I've shot.



Load up the 45-70, and yes, you can compare it to a whelan or 06 in an equal weight rifle. (the 500 gr hardcasts, a different story. In a 7lb rifle, they damnwell hurt!!!)

But, the recoil feels much different also. Comparitively, the 06, and the 45-70 may be close to equal in recoil energy by paper calculation, but what U feel on the shoulder tells a much different story.
Its more of a push from the 45-70 than the punch of a 06 IMHO...
 
Salty said:
Congradulations PaulT! Nice score. Say, does this rifle by chance have a straight grip (the lever fits flat against the rifle)? Or is it pistol grip (the lever is curved to meet the rifle)?
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I think it is the straight one, I say think because I will have the rifle again at the end of next month only, (have to keep everyone happy in the house, just bought one for Christmas so...)

Why? Does the straight grip have anything special or features compare to the pistol grip ones?

Thanks

Paul
 
The straight gripped rifles with the 22" barrel were only made for a few years and haven't been since around 1980. The 18" barreled guide gun of course now wears the straight grip stock, but the 22" rifle has the pistol grip. So, if you have the straight grip with the long barrel and hard leather but pad as I'm thinking you do you have a fairly rare Marlin and they're beautys. Nice thin forstock on them. I happen to own one myself. ;)
 
Don't believe the micro groove won't shoot cast bullets story, its not true. I have found that Marlin 45-70 1895s micro groove barrels like cast bullets that are at least .459 dia. or bigger. .457 or .458 dia's don't shoot nearly as well.

$450.00 is a pretty good price, at least around here.
 
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