Would you choose a Jimmy or a Cherokee for hunting?

Well, I owned a 1999 Jimmy. It was the worst truck I have ever owned, I would never touch one again. Even with regular maintenance, it broke down quite a bit. Problems were fuel pumps, manifold intake gasket, electronics, poor fuel economy, it was an expensive truck new, and was not worth the money. DON"T TOUCH THE JIMMY(ENVOY)
 
I have 98 Cherokee sport, much cheaper to lift than a Jimmy. Tougher in my opinion and the 4l inlice six is very reliable not to mention touch as nails. Bags of torque.

One more vote for a cherokee, all be it biased!!!
 
Im with kristian on this one by a toyota 4 runner, jimmies/envoys are fuel pigs from hell, and jeep cherokes are to rigid and stuff does break often when you 4x4 them even lightly

I know of 2 4 runners that look like they made it through iraq and back and still run like a top and besides the aftermarket goodies rock for the toys :)
 
I've owned and worked on both. Got 427,000 kms on my first Blazer/Jimmy, and have 285,000 or so on the one I have now. On my Jeeps I have no idea what the milage is, as neither of them has a working odometer (or speedo for that matter). Jeeps are fun, have a better TC (if you get the right one, that's the problem with Jeeps, you better know what components you want and which models had what). I would give the GM's the nod for daily driving/slight off roading. I love my Jeeps (I still have two), but unless you're really into them, they are a money pit (particularly the X bodies[downsized Cherokees], you get French trannies and lots of other weird garbage). At least with GMs you can get parts most anywhere. I probably wouldn't get an Envoy though, too much power crap that breaks off road and is too damn expensive to repair. The less options the better. FWIW - dan
 
Regarding newer full sized 4x4's. I've had problems keeping CV joint boots in my '90 Chev. The factory original ones are pretty good (but cost prohibitive as a replacement item). The cv boots provided with most aftermarket or rebuilt axels are thin like toilet paper.
 
well i have had broncos both full and mid sized, older full body blazers, p/u's, even a camper van and a chevette for getting into and out of hunting sites and so far the 93 cherokee i have now is proven to be quite reliable and super cheap to lift it except for the trans leak and oil pan leak i havent had any problems with it outside of slaming the fuel tank onto a nice sloid rock rendering it oh so holy*yes there was a skid plate on *
 
Just about anything you buy used has the potential to be a money pit.

IMO Jeeps will give you better off-road potential. The mileage figures for my 1994 Cherokee were 17MPG ansd 21MPG, exactly the same as those for my 1991 Chevy.

The Envoy should burn less fuel and will be far nicer as a commuter. The Envoy will not be able to go where the Cherokee will, but it has more power and can tow more.

Personally, I think that if gravel roads are as "off-road" as its going to get for you then the Envoy may be fine, but if you plan on driving anywhere without traffic signs and speed limits you might want to consider the Jeep.

Or as some others have mentioned, look at a Toyota. I'm currently looking at either a 4-runner or one of those diesel powered Landcruisers as a stablemate for my 1/2-ton.
 
dan belisle said:
I've owned and worked on both. Got 427,000 kms on my first Blazer/Jimmy, and have 285,000 or so on the one I have now. On my Jeeps I have no idea what the milage is, as neither of them has a working odometer (or speedo for that matter). Jeeps are fun, have a better TC (if you get the right one, that's the problem with Jeeps, you better know what components you want and which models had what). I would give the GM's the nod for daily driving/slight off roading. I love my Jeeps (I still have two), but unless you're really into them, they are a money pit (particularly the X bodies[downsized Cherokees], you get French trannies and lots of other weird garbage). At least with GMs you can get parts most anywhere. I probably wouldn't get an Envoy though, too much power crap that breaks off road and is too damn expensive to repair. The less options the better. FWIW - dan

Where to start? 1-XJs or cherokees ONLY came with 2 diff t-cases (231 or 242)
2-"french" (peugot) tranny ONLY came in 1987-89 STANDARD (5speed) toyota trans after that 90 on
3- any other questions about jeeps you can go here and ask them jeepkings.ca
 
I've worked in the automotive repair industry most of my life, and both the units you list have serious reliability issues. Jeep is just another way to spell "junk", and the Jimmy is a toy, not a real truck. Buy a full size pickup, or if you must buy smaller, go Toyota. Those Jimmys and Jeeps will generally two-bit you to death over time, especially if they have acccumulated some Km's already. Regards, Eagleye.
 
eagleye, why are the trucks so much better than similar size SUVs?
can you name a good pick-up that will outclass both Envoy and Cherokee?

My mechanic likes GMs, but then again, he gets his money from people that fix their cars.
 
My son into 'wheeling,some Jimmy problems,IFS is too weak,(Many CV shalfs)shalf bearing(2) into diff blow,ring gears on the anti-slip rear diff blow(2),pipe to EGR shears off(3).Nick finally bought a Cherokee 90 and got rid off 2000 Jimmy.
 
GIXXER said:
Where to start? 1-XJs or cherokees ONLY came with 2 diff t-cases (231 or 242)
2-"french" (peugot) tranny ONLY came in 1987-89 STANDARD (5speed) toyota trans after that 90 on
3- any other questions about jeeps you can go here and ask them jeepkings.ca

Yup, and the 231 is the better choice for most folks, and it needs work to be completely reliable off road. As I said, some models came with weird #### French (Peugot if you like) trannies. If you really want a jeep, find a CJ or an SJ. - dan
 
Trucks

I just took a Chev Envoy through it's paces in Death Valley, CA - put over 175miles of hard dusty washboard roads on her in three days:eek: :eek: . Not to worry it was a rental. It was well worth the extra $50.00 cleaning charge they hit me with....there was dust everywhere!!

I also had a Jeep and it was very hard on gas.....the Envoy didn't seen that bad for the size of it.

John
 
dan belisle said:
Yup, and the 231 is the better choice for most folks, and it needs work to be completely reliable off road. As I said, some models came with weird s**t French (Peugot if you like) trannies. If you really want a jeep, find a CJ or an SJ. - dan

Ya a CJ over a YJ or TJ IF you want crappy elec,weaker suspension,less power,carb over FI,weaker channel frame instead of boxed :rolleyes:

Enlighten me as to what a SJ jeep is ????
If you mean an FSJ there just aren't too many of those laying around and good luck getting parts :rolleyes:

Also I would argue that the 242 is the better choice for most people as it has full time 4WD as well as part time for those people that don't know the proper way and time to engage/disengage

Besides this is hijacking the thread he was asking which to buy(envoy or cherokee ) I was merely pointing out how your advice was incorrect and misleading
 
SJ is the factory code for the full sized jeeps, J10 and 20, Wagoneer, etc. Lot's of them still around out west, less rust I guess. The 231 is preferred over the 242 because there are less bits to go wrong when you're thrashing it, a fairly simple transfer case, easy to get parts for. I mentioned the CJ as a good choice (admittedly only if you don't mind wrenching on them), as great Jeeps are built, not bought, and a CJ is a good platform to start with. Jeep electrical has always been a week point, whether they were the Kaiser/AMC/or Chrysler versions. I don't see what I said as incorrect or misleading, but your milage may vary. - dan
 
Back
Top Bottom