Would you shoot corrosive ammo thru ur M14 / M305 ?
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I would not shoot corrosive ammo out of my M14. There is a lot more work to cleaning out an M14 action than there is to a CZ-858 or an SKS, so no.
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No good reason to!
Craftsman 441
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Oh yeah, the M14 bolt just slides out the back exactly like the SMLE bolt, ready to run patches through. I also forgot about how easy it is to clean the enfield's gas system - like it takes no effort at all! Wow, those two rifles are so similar it's uncanny.
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I'm asking because I have a load of that exactly. I bought a pile of it for $5 a box.
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I have put about 800 rounds of 1970 ZV corrosive thru one of my norcs, it seems to be more accurate than the last batch of FNM Portuguese that I bought. Detail stripped and cleaned after every shooting session, there has been no problems. I did ruin a $100 dollar Ishapore 1A1 by not cleaning it back when I was young and dumb, however.
I would think you would need to be more careful cleaning the M14/M1A/M14s/M305 after shooting corrosive ammo. The gases shoot down through the front of the stock rather than just into the upper handguard on the SKS.
Not a lot of people are willing to completely strip a receiver/barrel from the stock for cleaning.
Not a lot of people are willing to completely strip a receiver/barrel from the stock for cleaning.
The expression you get what you pay for comes strongly to mind. What you saved in ammo you lose in cleaning.
I have to be honest that I let my guard down when I bought it. I didn't realize there was a possibility that 7.62x51 could be corrosive. I've heard a variety of opinions on the subject, ranging from that's all they used to shoot from M1 garands to the most negative. Bottom line is that I wouldn't shoot it except on days when I've left myself enough time to clean thoroughly. I can see it being a lot more practical with a bolt action gun where barrel cleaning is simpler. I've fired off a couple of boxes and it shoots ok. Cleaned the gun thoroughly a couple of times following and seen no corrosion. At least the barrel is chromed on these norincos. That should help to some degree.
Other than the corrosive priming issue,I'd be concerned about the types of propellants which are loaded in some of this surplus ammo.Gas port pressure is an issue with the M14 and M14 knock-offs.Although more forgiving than the Garand,the burning rate of the propellant must generate the correct port pressure to cyle the rifle properly and without damage.For this reason is is a good idea to stick to NATO specification ball which is identifiable by the "cross in circle" NATO standard mark on the casehead.As a bonus,all NATO standard ball can be assumed to be non-corrosive primed.
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just shoot it in your bolt rifles.
this day and age it isnt worth it to shoot corrosive through a gas operated semi unless you are going to shoot something like a thousand rounds at once.
i have no problem shooting corrosive through bolt actions (which take a few minutes to thoroughly clean), but having to completely strip a semi and then spend an hour cleaning it with boiling water, solvents, reoiling, etc is just too much work to save a couple of bucks on the average range session.
for the same reason i always shoot corrosive 7.62x54R through my old Mosins but only shoot non-corrosive through my SVT. that corrosive #$@% gets into everything. despite what i tell them a couple people i know shoot corrosive and then just clean the bore and gas port but then neglect to clean the rest - you pretty much have to clean the entire damned rifle.... and its not worth it if you are just shooting a couple boxes of ammo.
now my friends - who buy a case of corrosive and then go shoot it all at once - i totally understand them choosing corrosive since they save a substantial amount of money and its only one cleaning. but for just a couple boxes? #$@% that.
this day and age it isnt worth it to shoot corrosive through a gas operated semi unless you are going to shoot something like a thousand rounds at once.
i have no problem shooting corrosive through bolt actions (which take a few minutes to thoroughly clean), but having to completely strip a semi and then spend an hour cleaning it with boiling water, solvents, reoiling, etc is just too much work to save a couple of bucks on the average range session.
for the same reason i always shoot corrosive 7.62x54R through my old Mosins but only shoot non-corrosive through my SVT. that corrosive #$@% gets into everything. despite what i tell them a couple people i know shoot corrosive and then just clean the bore and gas port but then neglect to clean the rest - you pretty much have to clean the entire damned rifle.... and its not worth it if you are just shooting a couple boxes of ammo.
now my friends - who buy a case of corrosive and then go shoot it all at once - i totally understand them choosing corrosive since they save a substantial amount of money and its only one cleaning. but for just a couple boxes? #$@% that.
I couldn't be bothered to shoot just a box of it through my M14. Too much effort for saving a couple of dollars. I'll either spend an afternoon at the range and shoot off many boxes, or I'll try to sell it to someone with a bolt action rifle.
Anyone want some $5.00 a box 7.62x51?
Anyone want some $5.00 a box 7.62x51?
I bought 4800 of it about 15 years ago, for $100 per 1000. Thats 10cents per round.
I'm down to about my last 800 or 900 rounds,so yes I do run corrosive through my Norc M305.
And my Valmet M78, and back when I could, my Ishapore 1A1.
As long as you use BOILING WATER, in both the barrel and the gas system, you will be OK. No goofy shortcuts like "just spray Windex or WD40 down the barrel"
