Would you???

Gatehouse said:
it realy depnds on what bullet youuse. At 50 yards, I'd take a head shot.

+1

At that distance. Would not shoot in the ass, we maybe try to hit the spine and kill him with a follow up shot. Depends if this was last day of the season or if i was really hungry, lol.
 
That would be a dead moose :D , at 50yds, I would probably take a shot either at the head or the hump/spine, he is not in the perfect position but he would of mooved a bit, just enough for the shot.
 
If he was walking, I might wait and try to get his attention for a better angle but if he was trotting away I'd have to run to the largest spruce and change into my "Capatian Deadly" outfit and try a head shot.

That cow has way more power than our calls;)

I'd probably shoot over him anyway:p
 
I made a similar shot a few years back on a large Whitetail, but at 200 yards. Rifle was a .300 Mag, and I hit the top of the hip right on the end of the spine. Didn't kill him, but anchored him on the spot and I put him down for keeps about 2 minutes later. A shot high in the hams will break the hip bone and cripple the animal with a gun, and a rear shot is perfectly acceptable for a bow as the hams house large blood vessels.
 
ryan robert said:
this past fall i was forced to shoot
Why were you "forced" to shoot?

ryan robert said:
this past fall i was forced to shoot from a 18 foot fibreglass over wood boat from 150 yards, with the 270 scoped, i didnt want to take the shot, but knew if i wanted my moose, than it was now or never, there were 2 foot waves on the lake, and first shot took out his wind pipe, second shot was on the fall of the wave and took out his left knee cap, he only made it 75 yards into the woods were he fell over due to major blood loos after cutting his throat.

IT was a hail mary, with only a day left to my hunt, being 3 provinces away on a short schedule i could not afford to not take it.
So let's recap .............

150yd shots from a boat rolling in 2' waves.

1st "hail mary" shot almost missed vitals, but DID manage to get him in the wind pipe.

2nd "hail mary" shot again missed vitals, but did manage to hit a knee.

Moose finally did die.

Sounds very messy.


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SuperCub said:
Why were you "forced" to shoot?


So let's recap .............

150yd shots from a boat rolling in 2' waves.

1st "hail mary" shot almost missed vitals, but DID manage to get him in the wind pipe.

2nd "hail mary" shot again missed vitals, but did manage to hit a knee.

Moose finally did die.

Sounds very messy.


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But dead none the less... whats your point?

Spin it how you want paul, whats pertinent is this...


IT was a hail mary, with only a day left to my hunt, being 3 provinces away on a short schedule i could not afford to not take it.
It worked out, im confidant in my abilties due to my military training and the amount of time on my rifles, i know what they can and cannot do.


You can sit safely behind your computer and judge, but I'd bet my left nut had you been in the same situation, you'd have taken the shot... There are more than one gunnutz that have been there, and done it... Some at 300 yards in a canoe... same outcome, dead moose...
 
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If the cow didnt move away I wouldnt shoot.

But if she did soon as she steps clear he'd get one either in the head or the hump. Finsihing shot required likely but they all cant be perfect.
 
DarrylDB said:
But dead none the less... whats your point?
My point was simple. but for your sake I will repeat it.

A shot like that should not have been taken. If one has alot of claimed experience, they would know this. The results could have been much different under the same circumstances.

DarrylDB said:
Spin it how you want paul, whats pertinent is this...
That wasn't spin, it was a repeat of the facts as relayed to the thread.

DarrylDB said:
You can sit safely behind your computer and judge, but I'd bet my left nut had you been in the same situation, you'd have taken the shot...
As I sit safely behind my computer, I can with all honesty confess that I have taken shots at big game that I shouldn't have and the results weren't good. I regret having done that, and would hazzard a guess that many of the members here on CGN have done the same, esp in their earlier years.

Having said that ......... I would not take the aforementioned shot! If you would, that's your business, but if I were you I wouldn't repeat it on CGN for public critque.

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with only a day left to my hunt, being 3 provinces away on a short schedule i could not afford to not take it.
It worked out, im confidant in my abilties due to my military training and the amount of time on my rifles, i know what they can and cannot do.


IS this not explanation enough?
 
DarrylDB said:
with only a day left to my hunt, being 3 provinces away on a short schedule i could not afford to not take it.


Not saying your not capable or anything. But let's say for someone else who really is not capable (ie. not military trained etc.) Is that really reason to take a risky shot? Is it that important to take something home? I dare say there are very few hunters living in the provinces that need the game meat that badly to feed their families.
 
DarrylDB said:
with only a day left to my hunt, being 3 provinces away on a short schedule i could not afford to not take it.
It worked out, im confidant in my abilties due to my military training and the amount of time on my rifles, i know what they can and cannot do.


IS this not explanation enough?

No, not to my way of thinking. In saying you "could not afford not to take it", it sounds a though the 'dollar bill' is the governing factor. Not the hunt, the luck of the draw, not the required consideration for the game, but the 'bucks'. A situation that usually shows up as wounded and /or lost game. I also have a lot of 'experience' with firearms but no matter how you cut it or, try to justify it, that shot, under hunting conditions is LOW percentage. If 'things' happen to be a little 'tight' for you and your family is hungry, you need it, take it. Other than that, show a little respect for the game and ethics of the sport.
 
bisonhd said:
DarrylDB said:
with only a day left to my hunt, being 3 provinces away on a short schedule i could not afford to not take it.


Not saying your not capable or anything. But let's say for someone else who really is not capable (ie. not military trained etc.) Is that really reason to take a risky shot? Is it that important to take something home? I dare say there are very few hunters living in the provinces that need the game meat that badly to feed their families.

I live in an area where the average size family tops 7 to 10 kids ( one has 18 kids) and to answer your question yes it is a reason to take a risky shot.

These farmers are filling their freezers for the winter ( one moose doesn't last them a winter) and have no choice with a big family.

The size of their gardens are testament to their need for moose and deer meat. Most gardens are as big or bigger than a city housing lot.
 
There are more variables here, it is not cut and dry at all.

In that situation, my rifle is certainly coming to my shoulder and what happens next who knows.

A 50 yrd head shot with no buck/bull fever is an easy shot, wouldn't hesitate. As for the cow, who knows, maybe I can move he/she will move. If the bull is moving (and he is), she will likely soon too.

Does time of season effect anything, sure it does. I can see Darryl's point. I have turned down shots mid-season and taken heat from partners about it. And I have taken some tough shots on the last day too. No, never missed an animal yet.

A moose is a full year's meat in my home and dammit, I am bringing one home. And that meat is a big factor in my moose hunts too.

I am not pointing any fingers at Darryl, I remember that post and I and pretty sure that was a NFLD hunt and I know lots there are dependent on that meat. Will they starve, of course not, but it sure does help having it.
 
Mumptia said:
bisonhd said:
I live in an area where the average size family tops 7 to 10 kids ( one has 18 kids) and to answer your question yes it is a reason to take a risky shot.

These farmers are filling their freezers for the winter ( one moose doesn't last them a winter) and have no choice with a big family.

The size of their gardens are testament to their need for moose and deer meat. Most gardens are as big or bigger than a city housing lot.

I have to question, how dire the need is if you can afford to go on a Moose hunting trip, three provinces away. I know my Moose trips aren't inexpensive. To me, indications are the attempt was to make the Moose trip a paying proposition meat wise for the dollars spent on the trip. I didn't get that it was NEEDED to feed the family. That wasn't mentioned.
 
I didn't post that!

No doubt some folks feel they need the moose meat, but others who drive there $50,000+ trucks loaded with campers, quads etcetera half way accross the country can probably afford (financially anyways) to pass up a iffy shot and hit the butchershop on the way home.

And I do know some poor grain farmers with large families, whoom after all the #####ing about banks, debt, crop values etc., still manage to 'afford' all the toys and luxeries.
 
Johnn Peterson said:
I also have a lot of 'experience' with firearms but no matter how you cut it or, try to justify it, that shot, under hunting conditions is LOW percentage.

Hmmm...low head-neck shot is a target approx 4' wide by 9" high.
Under these conditions...50 yds...& if that animal stopped! Most of us would use a rest if one was available but even so I wouldn't consider that a overly "LOW percentage" shot. There is a risk percentage in all shots!
 
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