ok so my m213 has turned itself into a 2-3 round burst. i took it apart and one of the springs on the hammer assembely had popped out on one end, i popped it back in and after 1 mag it had popped out again. it looks like it was made too short, but i dont know a whole lot about handguns. any suggestions on how to fix this? do i have to get a new spring or is ther another way to fix it?
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Same thing happened to mine. drift out the sear pin, slide the worn sear spring out of its mount, flip it around and install it backwards. It's a little harder to reassemble the sear back into the hammer assembly with the backwards curve, but functions flawlessly once you get it back together.
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You'll find that the pins are free floating and can be pushed out by hand using a small wire or small screwdriver.
There are only two springs in the action of the 213. One is a flat leaf with a roll on one end. This is the sear spring. The other is the hammer spring which is a coil that fits into the hole in the hammer.
The leaf spring on the sear has a rolled end that fits into a slot and hole arrangement. It can't be reversed. At least this is how MY two 213's are made. Mind you this certainly does not mean there are other versions out there that came in that batch from Canada Ammo. I'm guessing that rugermk's version is such a beast if he was able to flip this leaf spring around or if it uses a different style of sear spring than my two 213's do.
Mactain, some close up macro mode pictures of what you're dealing with would greatly help us to help you.
There are only two springs in the action of the 213. One is a flat leaf with a roll on one end. This is the sear spring. The other is the hammer spring which is a coil that fits into the hole in the hammer.
The leaf spring on the sear has a rolled end that fits into a slot and hole arrangement. It can't be reversed. At least this is how MY two 213's are made. Mind you this certainly does not mean there are other versions out there that came in that batch from Canada Ammo. I'm guessing that rugermk's version is such a beast if he was able to flip this leaf spring around or if it uses a different style of sear spring than my two 213's do.
Mactain, some close up macro mode pictures of what you're dealing with would greatly help us to help you.
Wow, I had no idea there were variations. Here's a picture of mine, showing the spring reinserted into the slot backwards - the butt of the spring has no problem sliding into its slot either way on this particular 213. If I were to disconnect the sear in this picture, the spring would be curving sharply to the right. By installing it backwards to reverse the curvature, it has more than enough strength to keep the spring tip wedged up into its shallow little slot.
If yours looks like this would work, it's worth a try.
If yours looks like this would work, it's worth a try.
That's not a pin as such but the rolled end of the spring just like mine. So we've got the same part and setup.
When you said you flipped the spring I was thinking you swapped it top for bottom so that the spring face curl stayed the same. I wasn't thinking back to front. Now what you typed makes a lot more sense to me. But if this was needed because the spring deformed from use enough to not work then I'm thinking that the temper of the spring was poorly done. Or perhaps it was made a hair undersize for length and flipping it just allows it to hook into the groove up in the body a little better.
When you said you flipped the spring I was thinking you swapped it top for bottom so that the spring face curl stayed the same. I wasn't thinking back to front. Now what you typed makes a lot more sense to me. But if this was needed because the spring deformed from use enough to not work then I'm thinking that the temper of the spring was poorly done. Or perhaps it was made a hair undersize for length and flipping it just allows it to hook into the groove up in the body a little better.
ya mine looks the same as that, and i think it was just cut a bit to short. i havent pulled it out yet cause i cant find anything small enough to push it out with, but as soon as i do i plan to do it and test it out.
For those not liking the grips on their Tokarev, try shooting it with the grips removed. This is how I shoot mine and I shoot it well.
Some folk accidently push the trigger bar down causing a stoppage. Pushing it back in place solves the problem. I never do this so for me shooting without the grips is perfect.
Some folk accidently push the trigger bar down causing a stoppage. Pushing it back in place solves the problem. I never do this so for me shooting without the grips is perfect.
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Long gone I'm afraid but they do pop-up on the EE. Sadly for more than the original 99 bucks
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And a lot of time, completely stock at more than the original price.
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I sold one of mine with a Comp & Grips for $250 (including shipping)..... Just FYI.
Cheers!
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Not so much though. I paid less than twice the original (insanely low) purchase price. I don't consider myself a sucker - If you buy cheap and get good, you win. Show me another handgun I can get for $180 that provides this much satisfaction.
I ordered one as soon as I heard about it - not a big fan of the 9mm, but I wanted something to mess with. Yes, it's a typical (early) Norinco - sharp edges, rough fit, so-so finish. Doesn't matter: I can afford to go over it with sandpaper until it fits/doesn't hurt me. And I did.
Shooting it was dismal - it shot two feet below point-of-aim with every standard 9mm cartridge, so I went to reloading. After a few months, during which I made a tool to take it down with, to ease my fingers, I tried light loads, heavy loads, fast/slow powder, and couldn't get it to behave.
Until: one of my shooting buds is a master caster. He came up with a mold that gave 133-grain SWC bulletz, made for .38Spl I think. Seated to just kiss the rifling, these give lovely wadcutter holes right where they're supposed to be. A moderate powder charge, to be sure.
So I probably spent more on ammo than I spent on the gun, but now it's broken in, with a pinto finish, and I know what it can and can't do.
Don't give up just 'cause they're cheap.
Shooting it was dismal - it shot two feet below point-of-aim with every standard 9mm cartridge, so I went to reloading. After a few months, during which I made a tool to take it down with, to ease my fingers, I tried light loads, heavy loads, fast/slow powder, and couldn't get it to behave.
Until: one of my shooting buds is a master caster. He came up with a mold that gave 133-grain SWC bulletz, made for .38Spl I think. Seated to just kiss the rifling, these give lovely wadcutter holes right where they're supposed to be. A moderate powder charge, to be sure.
So I probably spent more on ammo than I spent on the gun, but now it's broken in, with a pinto finish, and I know what it can and can't do.
Don't give up just 'cause they're cheap.
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