WTK ipsc and glock after market BBL

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OK so i,m going to go back to shooting ipsc with my glock, as i,m useing it for IDPA and CDP.
What i need to know is how will i be classed in IPSC if i use a glock 19 thats got a 108mm aftermarket BBL in it, as i dont have 12/6 its now reclased as restricted.
Please dont tell me i,m going to be put into Open!!!!
BBB
 
But wait. The barrel mod is one required to comply with law, just like the guys in Australia have to do.
So he should be fine for Production Div.
 
from the Darklord himself:

If a competitor has to put an extended barrel into a Glock 19 to make it legal to own in Canada (longer then 104 mm) is this a legal modification for production

Yes, provided the barrel is OFM and does not exceed 127mm in length.

you can read all about it here: http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=4108&st=20

so now the question would be is this a Glock barrel or a storm lake barrel. if a Glock barrel then i would say legal production, if a Storm Lake barrel then Standard
 
Good call Walter.

edited to add an afterthought,

What if Glock doesn't make a factory long barrel for the 19? then would an aftermarket one be legal to use in Canada? I would say so, as again, it's a legal requirment.
 
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G17 barrels don't fit, locking lugs are different.

walter, so long as it wasn't a ported barrel, I'd let it ride in PD if I was the RO. The shooter is simply using what's required to meet local laws, period. The rule book doesn't then break down the ifs and whats. Vince's ruling was based on a factory barrel being available, not on one NOT being available. At a level 3 or higher match, perhaps people may challenge this, but I doubt it.
 
Quigley said:
There no "letting it ride"...the rules are the rules (no one ever said it made sense)
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So, does that mean if you get pulled over for speeding (or whatever) and you get a 'warning' you'll say "the rules are the rules" and insist that the cop give you a ticket? :rolleyes:
 
Mike Oxlong said:
So, does that mean if you get pulled over for speeding (or whatever) and you get a 'warning' you'll say "the rules are the rules" and insist that the cop give you a ticket? :rolleyes:
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Ya...thats the same thing :rolleyes:

Here's one for you...

Joe Schmo attends a level 1 in BC...with his Glock 19 and the non OEM barrell. He's allowed to shoot in Prod because someone at the the match says he can. He has so much fun he decides to shoot the Alberta provincials...he may very well just have bought a plane ticket to shoot "Open" with a Glock 19...because "but Rob said" doesn't trump the rule book...

There is no reason to introduce subjectiveness to an otherwise objective process...

Don't like the rules??? Send in an appeal and get them changed
 
If it isn't a Glock barrel it isn't happening in Production. The Aussies get CZ product with extended barrels from the factory for their Shadows. Check out CZ UB web ste.

Take Care

Bob
 
Slavex said:
walter, so long as it wasn't a ported barrel, I'd let it ride in PD if I was the RO. The shooter is simply using what's required to meet local laws, period. The rule book doesn't then break down the ifs and whats. Vince's ruling was based on a factory barrel being available, not on one NOT being available. At a level 3 or higher match, perhaps people may challenge this, but I doubt it.
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As an RM i wouldn't. it becomes way to much of a nightmare to try and administrate. the best i might do if it was a new BB person is i might move him into standard instead of open if he was given bad advice by someone else and i can tell you it would be for that match only and i would be very clear on it. it would be unfortunate he bought the wrong gun for production division since it is a standard gun.
 
Lemme first say that I'd like to see BB's gun in production as much as anyone else.

Slavex said:
walter, so long as it wasn't a ported barrel, I'd let it ride in PD if I was the RO. The shooter is simply using what's required to meet local laws, period. The rule book doesn't then break down the ifs and whats. Vince's ruling was based on a factory barrel being available, not on one NOT being available. At a level 3 or higher match, perhaps people may challenge this, but I doubt it.
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But I'm with Quigley & Walter on this, you're opening up a huge can of worms here.

Why not let a trigger finger violation slide - his gun was pointed downrange and it's only a level 1? Because you're not doing him any favors for future events where you might not be present.

Hey that competitor is going to start without a mag in his gun? I'll tell him - it's only a level 1. - Why is that other competitor ticked off at me? Oh, he had the same thing happen on stage 4 and I wasn't there.

Once you let one gun slide, where does it stop? The next guy has a set of unapproved finger groove grips on a production gun, the next guy's safety doesn't work...Oh my that's an interesting mag release on that gun, etc.

Stick to the rule book. Consistency is vital. If you don't - it will bite you in the ass later. I speak from experience.

Quigley said:
There is no reason to introduce subjectiveness to an otherwise objective process...
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:cheers:Very Well Said!!! If I was one of those guys that added quotes to thier tagline - this would be the one.
 
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