WTK: Robinson Arms XCR

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I'm looking for objective information about the quality and durability of the Robinson Arms XCR in 5.56. I've used the search function here and not found what I really wanted to know about it. Googling the rifle only directed me to many conflicting opinions.

Can anyone post a link to any article with sound, objective information about the XCR, if any exist?
 
I own one. My opinion in short is:

Pro:
- Nice build quality in general. Good materials and machining Nice aluminum upper and lower. Far far ###ier than the tupperware of the AR types.
- Excellent ergonomics. Great placement of action release, mag release and safety.
- Adjustable gas system
- Piston driven (Clean action that never jams)
- I like the design where the bolt locks into the barrel shroud.
- Super quick field strip with no tools.
- Unbelievable service w/ a manufacturers rep here in CGN.


Con:
- Sloppy trigger, rough first stage.
- Not really that accurate at all. ( with factory WWB 55gr FMJ best I can do is 2.5", more often 3.5" and occasionally worse.
- Front heavy (This is not a robarms prob, just a "Canadian version" prob. because of the heavy bull barrel.)
- A little pricey, but you pay for the materials in the build.
- The main pin that holds the upper and lower is held in with a cheap cotter pin. For 2k I expected better.


All in all if I had to do it again, I would in a heartbeat. I really do love the gun. With a 4 MOA Aimpoint red dot and cheap factory ammo I can shoot a 10" gong all day long while standing which is what a rifle like this was meant to do IMHO. It is by no means a benchrest shooter, but it was never meant to be. While some design features are exceptionally brilliant, it does have a few minor, but almost unbelievable flaws. If falls somewhere between the cheaply made and plasticky AR bunch and the nice but super pricey SIG black and green specials. The price puts it int he middle more or less. Those who wnat quality and flawless design and are willing to pay for it go for the sigs, those with no money but appetites for black rifles go for AR's and the XCR falls into neither category and is probably more of a niche market rifle than any of the other ones, but there is a $1200 gap between the cheap and the expensive. That is almost a 2 for one deal when comparing the ARs and the SIGs. I think there is room for the XCR.

FWIW I will never sell mine.
 
Took a friends shooting, 1st time a piece that holds the butt stock on broke off, the next time something busted that stops the slide and the thing wouldn't stop slamfiring.
 
Mine works fine.

Nothing's fallen off or broken, no misfires, seems reasonably accurate. The trigger is no worse than on my AR but the weight/balance is off a bit due to the 18.5" heavy barrel.
 
Thanks for all the opinions so far. I'm still considering one (with less and less fervour) but need to know specifically if there are "fatal" design weaknesses and construction/durability issues which far outweigh it's attraction as a non restricted black rifle.
 
Thanks for all the opinions so far. I'm still considering one (with less and less fervour) but need to know specifically if there are "fatal" design weaknesses and construction/durability issues which far outweigh it's attraction as a non restricted black rifle.

What do you mean by "fatal"? I can think of none. Remember that the problems people talk about here were on the first 1500 rifles of a new'ish company on a totally new design. AR's and SIGs have been coming out for decades and still have more than their fair share of problems. Just look in other forums or google SIG black special problems or AR problems and you will get a gajillion sites detailed the woes of other manufacturers. Robinson is no better and no worse than the others.

The materials are quality and the rifle is reliable. I've not had 1 FTF, FTE, FTC in 2k rounds and counting. I know of lots of AR 180Bs, Stag arms, RRA etcc. that could not say the same thing.

My recomendation: buy the rifle, strip it, lube it, rebuild it tightening the extractor if it is loose and then fire 10000 rounds without a problem. Just remember to keep the gas on setting 4 for the first 3-400 rounds, then lower it as needed. Mine is now on 2. Enjoy.
 
For the money you can buy a new SL8 which will be more accurate and generally better quality. HK is a pound heavier though and a bit longer.
 
Why don't you try it out and then decide???

I had the chance to use one yesterday at my local range. Listening to the owner tell me about how to loctite various parts did not inspire confidence.

I enjoyed shooting it and found it acceptably accurate but one range trip is a superficial once over that doesn't really prove anything.
 
look, if you like it , buy it, if not, don't buy it. You can always sell it ( before dec 8th, when it and all other evil black guns will become prohib.
 
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