WW1 training photos

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These photos were in an old autograph book of pictures from my grandmother. I believe the soldier on the left in the first photo noted "Charlie" is my father's oldest brother Charles W Elliott who served with 44th Manitoba in WW1, killed at the battle of Amiens. The other photo shows soldiers in training, believe the banner is "102 Winnipeg". Don't know why the different Bn. Third photo shows a group of men with their Ross Mk II. Hope you find of interest.
Bill
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Cool!:)

I have two Great Uncles that served with the C.E.F. in France.

They enlisted in Edmonton, but I think they got sent as replacements to other battalions.

One of these days I'm going to get around to requesting their service records.
 
how do you got about requesting a relatives service record?

First go here and punch in their name to find their reference numbers (you'll also be able to see the attestation paper they signed when they first enlisted.)

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html


Then with their reference numbers, you can order their service record here: https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/copies/secure/005010-5100-e.php


These are the guidelines (there is a link to this information directly above your relative's information.)

How to order a copy of a complete service file

Most of the attestation papers have been digitized and appear online in the database.

The service files are paper originals. Beginning in May 2010, Library and Archives Canada has started to add digitized copies of the files to the database to make them more accessible, to help preserve the originals and to avoid copying the same file more than once.

For files not yet digitized, you can order photocopies or scanned images. The cost is the same. When a photocopy or digital copy is requested, the complete file will be scanned and the digital images will be added to the database the next time it is reloaded. In this way, all Canadians can help contribute to the preservation of our country's military heritage.

Due to the large volume of inquiries we receive, we are unable to provide a service for selecting and copying specific documents from within a file; we only provide copies of complete file. As well, the documents are not paginated and we cannot undertake page counts of files prior to ordering. However, most Canadian Expeditionary Force service files contain an average of 25 to 75 pages, with those for personnel who were drafted or enlisted later in the war typically having smaller files. They are open to the public without access restrictions.

How to order copies

See: Price List and Service Standards - Photocopy

* To obtain the students or seniors citizens (65 years of age and over) reduced rates, you must send a photocopy of your ID card with your written request or present your ID card to the staff when placing your request in-person.

Orders can be placed using our secure online Order Form for Photocopies and Reproductions, or by mail or fax. Please include your credit card number and the expiry date.

Reproduction Services
Library and Archives Canada
395 Wellington Street
Ottawa, ON K1A 0N4
Fax: 613-995-6274

* We do not accept orders for copies by email as we cannot guarantee security for your credit card information. However, our online Order Form for Photocopies and Reproductions is secure.

Cite the full archival reference as it appears in the database.

Example:
COOPER, ADAM PORTER
Regimental number: 328870 (or rank if the individual was an officer)
Reference: RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 1965-1

If you are having problems identifying the correct file, please consult this section.

Once you have received their file and have all their unit information, you can access the War Diaries part of the Collections Canada website and read all the daily dispatches of their unit.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/020152_e.html
 
These photos were in an old autograph book of pictures from my grandmother. I believe the soldier on the left in the first photo noted "Charlie" is my father's oldest brother Charles W Elliott who served with 44th Manitoba in WW1, killed at the battle of Amiens. The other photo shows soldiers in training, believe the banner is "102 Winnipeg". Don't know why the different Bn. Third photo shows a group of men with their Ross Mk II. Hope you find of interest.
Bill

Was the 102 Winnipeg Battalion a training battalion?

Once enlisted, at least after the initial mobilization at the start of the war, new recruits were assigned to a training battalion here in Canada where they recieved their basic training. Once they got overseas, they were assigned to their new battalions/units.

For example, my grandfathers service records indicate that he enlisted on June 21, 1916 and assigned to the 164'th BN. Once overseas, he was assignet to the 2nd Canadian Reserve BN. A few days latter, he was assigned to the Canadian Machine Gun Depot

After 5 months of training as a machine gunner, he was shipped to France and assigned to the Canadian Machine Gun Pool and a few days latter, "taken on strength" by the 5th Machine Gun Company, where he spent the rest of the war.

The 5th MGC was in fact the 5th Brigades machine gun company. In April of 1918, there was a reorganization of the various bragades machine gun companies into The Canadian Machine Gun Corps. The 5th MGC became batteries C and D, No. 1 Company, 2nd Bn, CMGC. The 1st Bn was assigned to the 1st Division, the 2nd to the 2nd Div, etc, so that they continued to fight along side of the same infantry battalions that they had previos to the reorganization.

Most of the above info came from the service records available from the source listed in Maple Sugars post.
 
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