XCR Opinions

[pres717]

I use mine in the tundra. Cold, wet, dirty, gets banged around a lot. No functional issues, accurate, nice looking, and I love the ability to use 10 round AR mags in a non-restricted rifle. Conversion kits and plenty of after market parts are the icing on the cake.

Lots of stuff on Youtube.

 

[na1lb0hm]

well I bought a Tavor... a smoking deal came up on the ee and i snapped it up instead. I did research on my own and quite frankly there was to much "iffy" info on the xcr for the kind of $ I was going to spend

what kind of iffy info did you find? I'm curious as I have committed to an xcr, and thus far have not found much... that being said :
The loctite issue (I don't have a problem with that, you tighten the lug nuts on your car, might as well maintain firearms as well, i'm not going to be getting shot at etc etc.).
Alex robinson making some poor choices supporting people who support AWB. (bill ruger and hi cap mags)

 

[tiriaq]

I have shot exactly one XCR. Wasn't mine. Was brand new. Nightforce 2 1/2-10 on top. We tried it with several different makes of quality ammunition, from sandbags, at 100m. It was a consistant 4 minute rifle. Reading this thread, it sounds as if every other one out there will shoot a minute or better with white box ball. Maybe this one was atypical.
I didn't care for the muzzle heavy balance of the rifle, but otherwise liked the ergonomics.

 

[JAGDMORDER]

I have put about 200rnds so far, and had two ftf. This was only because of that garbage c=products mag(or me not seating it correctly). All I have done so far in terms of maintenance is tighten the front and rear buis,gasblock,extractor, and bolt release. Otherwise it runs great and is 1.5 moa @ 100yrds. I am not a perfect shot either.lol I absolutely love mine, although I still have it on the fourth gas setting and getting that trigger slap. I will turn it down to two after another couple hundred rounds and see how she goes. You wont be dissapoint,...

 

[pres717]

I have shot exactly one XCR. Wasn't mine. Was brand new. Nightforce 2 1/2-10 on top. We tried it with several different makes of quality ammunition, from sandbags, at 100m. It was a consistant 4 minute rifle. Reading this thread, it sounds as if every other one out there will shoot a minute or better with white box ball. Maybe this one was atypical.
I didn't care for the muzzle heavy balance of the rifle, but otherwise liked the ergonomics.

Yeah, it is a bit front heavy. Slightly shorter would be nice, but who wants a shorter barrel that'll make it restricted?

 

[Armedsask]

I have shot exactly one XCR. Wasn't mine. Was brand new. Nightforce 2 1/2-10 on top. We tried it with several different makes of quality ammunition, from sandbags, at 100m. It was a consistant 4 minute rifle. Reading this thread, it sounds as if every other one out there will shoot a minute or better with white box ball. Maybe this one was atypical.
I didn't care for the muzzle heavy balance of the rifle, but otherwise liked the ergonomics.

Dubious grouping measurements I'm guessing.

I'm reminded of a thread on here where the guy posted his targets and said, "If you ignore the fliers, the groups were a consistant 1 MOA."

I don't recall what rifle he was shooting.

 

[Paul Morrison]

That was my target. I was shooting from a bipod, and I blame both fliers on me. That said, its still a very tight group. Who knows how tight it would be off a bench, but this is how tight it was off my bipod, and with my crappy skillz:

Was at 100 yds with white box Winchester 55gr. Optics was an EoTech 512 (NO MAGNIFICATION).

 

[50calshooter]

 

[Shrapnel]

If Robarm ever makes a skinny 19" barrel for their XCR, it would be a HUGE improvement... We are stuck with their heavy "sniper" barrel if we want a non-restricted rifle...

 

[hpf1422]

I have one in 7.62x39. First 300 rounds were a @#*&*. Loads of malfunctions, although I'd definitely blame a ton of them on the crappy c-products mags. After the 300 rounds, though - works like a dream. Just make sure to break in the gun and mags...

Barrel is heavy, like a lot of others have said.

 

[pres717]

I have one in 7.62x39. First 300 rounds were a @#*&*. Loads of malfunctions, although I'd definitely blame a ton of them on the crappy c-products mags. After the 300 rounds, though - works like a dream. Just make sure to break in the gun and mags...

Barrel is heavy, like a lot of others have said.

Yeah, I started with the 7.62x39 barrel also and had some hiccups on the first few hundred rounds. Nothing since though.

 

[fuzzynuts54]

you know 50cal, some times Id like to smack your boyfriends poo off your lips for the shart you talk about the xcr but I must admit those pics you posted make me laugh my ass off. take that in the best possable way please. cheers. lol

 

[Teac]

I have shot exactly one XCR. Wasn't mine. Was brand new. Nightforce 2 1/2-10 on top. We tried it with several different makes of quality ammunition, from sandbags, at 100m. It was a consistant 4 minute rifle. Reading this thread, it sounds as if every other one out there will shoot a minute or better with white box ball. Maybe this one was atypical.
I didn't care for the muzzle heavy balance of the rifle, but otherwise liked the ergonomics.

4 MOA ??? That sounds lemmon to me ...

In my opinion, a lot of the difference in accuracy is based on the fact that lots of folks dont know what MOA is ... the "accuracy" given in MOA is independant of distance.

 

[fuzzynuts54]

too high of a gas setting is going to upset things a bit too id suspect. the crappy old trigger could also be a instigator. Im about 4"@100y with the factory sights and I think I have bad eyes as I cant read signs at distances everyone else seems to, but I see more game and shoot better than most people I know.

 

[blaxsun]

well I bought a Tavor... a smoking deal came up on the ee and i snapped it up instead. I did research on my own and quite frankly there was to much "iffy" info on the xcr for the kind of $ I was going to spend

Kudos on the Tavor - you'll really enjoy it! I was going to suggest that the only other option in the same price range as the XCR would be an HK SL8 - which would probably have been my first choice.

 

[starblanket]

I have one in .223 and I love it. No ftf,fte or jams and I've been out in -29. Accuracy is decent for a semi-auto. They will have to pry it from my cold hands.

 

[Camp Cook]

I like mine it is an awesome rifle.

I have complete uppers in 223 & 6.8 SPC...

223

6.8 SPC

with NEA stock adapter/Magpul CTR stock

both uppers 223 is on rifle

definitely fun to pack in the bush

or to use as a camp gun

and yes there is Carolan's in that coffee...

 

[misanthropist]

You don't have to lock tite anything. Don't listen to the haters.

It's in the bloody manual.

I am just posting so I can be part of what I can only assume will become a famous thread...the one in which Alex Robinson was outed as an XCR hater.



To the OP...this is why you don't see a lot of rational critiques of the XCR. Any suggestion that it is not 100% perfect - even if that suggestion is identical to one made by the designer, in print, in a document shipped with every rifle - results in some XCR owners freaking out and accusing the critic of being a "hater".

About half a dozen times I've given my thoughts on this rifle in the most factual and restrained way I know how. Every time people freak out and call me either an XCR hater or an AR fanboy...as though ARs are some sort of identical collective machine which can be assessed as a whole, with no discernible difference between a DPMS and a Daniel Defense.

I am neither an XCR hater, nor a Robarms hater, nor an AR fanboy. I think the XCR has some serious issues which will prevent it from ever being adopted on a large scale by any organization which depends on their rifles. If you want it as a plinker and a fun black rifle I am sure it will be fine.

 

[Camp Cook]

My XCR-L is more than fine especially when I pull it out of it's case put it on my quad and head out hunting with it...

 

[Paul Morrison]

To the OP...this is why you don't see a lot of rational critiques of the XCR. Any suggestion that it is not 100% perfect - even if that suggestion is identical to one made by the designer, in print, in a document shipped with every rifle - results in some XCR owners freaking out and accusing the critic of being a "hater".

(1) You and armedsask are haters. You troll the board for any mention of the XCR so you can spread misinformation and lies about it.

(2) This statement is yet even more proof of (1). I have, in my hand, the manual. There are exactly THREE mentions of Loc-Tite in the manual. On page 38 it says when doing a caliber conversion you may use loctite 222 "if desired" when changing the brass deflector. It is not required, nor is it recommended. It is suggesting that if you WANT to use loctite you use 222. The second and third mentions are on p. 41, and are only applicable if you are suffering certain types of malfunction. They are not required prior to use, they are not suggested prior to use, they only apply if (a) empty cases are being caught in the action as a result of the ejector coming loose or (b) The bolt catch doesn't catch because parts have come loose. Both of which are extraordinary failures. Some of the other recommended actions for malfunctions are: changing gas settings, lubrication, cleaning, or fixing or replacing parts. Nowhere in the manual does it say that anything has to be loctited prior to use.