Xcr vs swiss arms..need help

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OK I am going to buy one of these rifles this week and i need a little help. I know swiss arms is supposedly the best but how much better ...1000 dollars better.

XCR any problems, issues with the weapon that really matter???
I like that i can use 10 round mags in it I like that it is only 2500 but i know nothing more about these. Can someone help me make the best decision, I have the money for both but i don't like the idea of the overpriced rail for the swiss and mags, how can i put a vert grip on it if i wanted too so tell me what would you guys do is the xcr better than an AR 15 is it just as good as a swiss ????
 
I love my Swiss Arms but the XCR is an excellent rifle... AR's are also good. To me it looks like you want an XCR and are second guessing yourself. You have good reasons for the XCR so I would go that way...
 
the swiss arms might be 1000$ more expensive then the XCR but the XCR is 1000$ too expensive. IMO if you have the cash for the gun and still have some for the ammo. go for the swiss arms.

You not only get an awesome rifle, you also become part of the SA guild of awesome.
 
The XCR is fantastic. I have NO problems with mine. Some of the older rifles had a few issues but the new ones are fantastic. With the new triggers that now come standard, the only major complaint is gone. Check out xcrforum.com for lots of detailed info on anything you would likely ask. I have absolutely no complaints about the XCR. Yes the first 300 rounds is a "break in" period, but I have had no issues and am well beyond that now.
 
Hmmm....very tough choice to make if I were in your shoes. The XCR is less money, has some modularity, takes AR mags (big factor if you want to get some affordable quality mags). The Swiss, on the other hand, has a solid reputation as one of the best .223, and according to some the best, rifles available to the civilian market. If money were not an issue, I would say go for the Swiss.

As far as that goes, I have often contemplated that we will pay thousands of dollars, without a blink, for a vehicle that will drastically depreciate and eventually get scrapped, and yet we think it's out of the question to purchase a superb, higher-end rifle that doesn't even closely approach what that same vehicle will run us. Opting for the most "affordable" rifle when what we really want, and probably need, is the best we can get: a rifle that is superbly-built, functionally-reliable, and the pride of our lifetime possessions.

Of course, when you're dirt poor like me, that thought usually doesn't linger for long...:)
 
I bought an XCR for 3 gun competition and hunting and it was the best money I have ever spent on a rifle. I goes bang every time you pull the trigger, doesn’t need cleaning or a bunch of aftermarket add-on’s and is better than 1 MOA accurate. It is everything I ever wanted in a rifle. You can even change calibers and hunt deer and other big game! Now that is a truly flexible platform!
 
To me it looks like you want an XCR and are second guessing yourself.
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Couldn't have said it better myself... but i dont wanna spend 2500 on a OK gun when i was only 1000 away from the best...can u hunt with 10 rounds mags???? how heavy is the swiss compared to the xcr ....I would by used but i have to trade in my ar to get one
 
The only downside to the Swiss Arms rifle was lack of affordable magazines.

With the addition of affordable magazines from Canada Ammo, there is no longer any reason to not buy a Swiss Arms.

Swiss Arms, hands down, no contest.
 
If you want the best rifle you've got to go with the Swiss Arms for an unrestricted semi 5.56.

I don't think the XCR can run with the AR15 or the Swiss Arms quite yet (reliability/ accuracy.)

I seriously doubt anyone is getting 1 MOA out of an XCR unless they are using another “unit” to measure. - internet groupings are always a lot tighter. :)

For the XCR - the rail and the AR mags are a cool thing to have tho.

For the Swiss Arms – it doesn't really have a break in period and will run right out of the box without re-torquing screws and the loctite that the XCR may require.

I think the XCR is a better looking rifle (pure aesthetics) but I dislike the cheesy folding stock mechanism.

They're both nice rifles tho one is clearly ready for a harsher environment with proven reliability.

I'd by an XCR; I just wouldnt go to work with one but I wouldn't go to work with a 5 or 10 rnd mag either so ... meh.
 
Shot an XCR the other night. Very nice. Two FTE and 1 misfire, owner said the piston probably needed adjusting.
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Something is seriously wrong, it should not be doing that. Mine has never done either.

I don't think the XCR can run with the AR15 or the Swiss Arms quite yet (reliability/ accuracy.)
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The reliability is horsesh!t. My XCR is as reliable as any AR or swiss arms. 1000 + rounds. No FTF, no FTE, no Jams. An accuracy is as good or better than any AR or swiss arms I've ever seen. I routinely shoot the bull out at 100 yards. At 300 I can hit the metal plates every single shot.

I seriously doubt anyone is getting 1 MOA out of an XCR unless they are using another “unit” to measure. - internet groupings are always a lot tighter.
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Internet groupings are always the tightest for the SA guys. They think because they spent 3k they have bull seeking bullets.

At 100 yards, I can make the bull on my 4.5" target (1" bull) disappear.

it doesn't really have a break in period and will run right out of the box without re-torquing screws and the loctite that the XCR may require.
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You don't need loctite. However, if you buy ANYTHING with moving parts, you should ALWAYS give any nuts and bolts a quick twist to ensure they are properly assembled. My XCR came with everything tighter than a drum. The manual simply tells you to do what every gun manufacturer should be telling you to do: make sure everything is tight before you use it.

Its not like they tell their assembly staff to only partially torque their nuts and bolts.
 
People seem to either love or hate the XCR. If it was me I'd go with the XCR as the calibre swaps seem like an interesting and usable feature on a NR, useless for me on a range only queen like the AR is currently (blasted socialists). Is the Swiss Arms a better rifle? Yes, however it depends on what you really want this rifle for. Really though, no matter which way you go, they both have their merits and you can't really go that far wrong.
 
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