yes or no..Glock or Colt 1911- which has the better service life???

"yes or no..Glock or Colt 1911- which has the better service life???"

Do you mean as in 'Which has a longer period during which it will remain useful?', or rather 'Which takes longer to perform service on, and / or which needs more service to remain in a useful state?'

;)

One word answer, "How long is a piece of string?"
 
I remember seeing Shooting Times do a "torture test" of several different automatics in about 1983, Browning HP, S&W 9mm, 1911 Govt model Colt. None of them went past 5000 rounds before some spring or ejector or extractor failed. At least one of these had two items break. Things have changed since then. Beretta hadn't even unveiled the 92F/M9 yet, and no one knew Glock in any way.

Around 1985 The M9/92F impressed many right at the start, for not having parts breakages. And very soon after that the Glock made it to the West, and people were VERY skeptical. Some didn't even want to try it for fear it might break in their hands.

In 1988 though, Glocks were already starting to gain a little in popularity among handgun owners in Vancouver. There used to be an indoor rental range in Burnaby, closed long ago due to a gang shooting inside the range...but in 1988 it was still open, they had a Glock for rent there. One day I was practicing for an upcomming handgun match using my issued CF BrowningHP-inglis, and the lady beside me was using her new Glock. So I asked her what she thought of it: this was her second Glock! She also said that the rental range she knew of one Glock that had 450 thousand rounds through it with no parts failures. They sent it back to Glock for an inspection, I assume over fears of liability/catastrophic failure. The story goes that they inspected it, noticed it had had several "stuck bullet struck by second" issues, but was still safe to keep in service. But apparently they did replace all the springs in it. I don't know if I fully believe the story, but I have heard of some serious high mileage on Glocks and still keep working. There are always some exceptions though.

As for the 1911's...they aren't all created equal are they? There are dozens of mass production manufacturers, and hundreds of custom parts manufacturers...so that is a major variable. Similarly, it's been in production and constant use for 100 years...metalurgy, the quality of the steels, the manufacturing techniques, the engineering going into it...all of that has improved greatly since they first started making 1911's. Even the design itself has many changes today since the 1911A1, so much so that a Springfield USGI is not a carbon copy of a Remington Rand 1911A1 from the great war.

So how do we judge the 1911 against a Glock? Maybe we shouldn't. The Glock is a marvel of modern engineering and manufacturing techiques, and it works well and lasts well. The 1911 worked so well even back in 1912 that it's popularity grew dramatically even as all it's competitors of the day didn't even last a decade. Today they are built with more engineering, more precision, better steels, some new little changes. But even the originals from way back work quite well. And today's quality 1911 from a good manufacturer will last a very long time, ask any professional IPSC competitor. But putting even an estimate of "service life" on a 1911 is silly unless you specify a completely stock model, specific model from a specific manufacturer. Because they aren't all created equal, good as they may be.

Maybe we should consider this in terms of cars: the 1911 today is like a Cobra kit car: very high performance, quality parts, loved by anyone who loves cars. But as good as it is, it's the sum of it's parts, and the dozen or more companies making Cobra kits aren't identical. Some may have a slightly more budget engine. Or their electrical system isn't as cleanly wired as another. Others may bring big power at the expense of engine life, while a premium engine providing power and longevity might be offered by another. So comparing that Cobra kit car in reliability/breakages, to say a 2011 Mustang 5.0 GT (the production Glock in this analogy) isn't necessarily an easy one to do. If you can afford to have multiple cars, pick your particular snake poison and get the Cobra kit and build it right, you'll have a ton of fun in that street rocket! But if you only have parking for a single vehicle, but still want to have a fun sportscar that gives some rocking performance, maybe the brand new Mustang5 liter is the safer bet, especially if you don't have time to work on the car itself. This isn't a perfect analogy either: a top quality 1911 should give really good dependable service for a long time.
It's worth noting that Kimber 1911's are seeing more use by law enforcement agencies, Tacoma now issues them, as does LAPD SWAT I think. Caspian parts were used to build the USMC's special ops 1911's, called M-45 MEU(SOC) pistol now built on Springfield's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEU(SOC)_pistol
 
Lousy question - the shooter is a huge part of the equation, tell me who'll be shooting it and I'll tell you which one will last longer and be more reliable. Some guys are great with Glocks but shouldn't be allowed to hold, never mind shoot, a 1911.
 
I want to change my answer to 1911.

this is from "The History of the 1911 Pistol";

"In fact, during a 6,000 round test fired over two days in 1910 that was personally supervised by John M. Browning, his sample pistol became so hot that it was simply dunked in a pail of water to cool it for further firing. Browning’s sample reportedly passed the test with no malfunctions."
 
i like the fact that all of you cant follow simple one word answers

And we like the fact that, in the space of 13 words, you garbled your own question so much that it is nonsensical.

Glock or Colt 1911, which has the better service life? Yes or No.


There are so many problems here it's pointless to respond seriously. What exactly do you mean? I mean leaving aside the fact that your question is not answerable with "yes" or "no", indicating to me that you clearly don't understand the basic mechanics of YOUR OWN QUESTION, what do you think is meant by service life, and which Glock are you referring to?

Are you familiar with the amount of work that goes into maintaining a 1911 throughout its service life, and the degree of mandatory parts replacement on high-round-count 1911s? Or do you think that having a long service life means time between repairs? Are you talking about an individual gun or these guns in general?

Go back, figure out what you're asking, ask the question in an intelligent manner, and maybe the responses will make more sense to you.
 
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