You and your businesses are traitors.

scout_289 said:
Actually it doesn't suck. It's rather gratifying to see change taking place:

This are a few results from a Google of "gun club donate food bank". This has all happened in the last 4 years. Maybe some of the new people on here who hold the future in their hands will understand that there is a Third Way.

- CHARITY FUN COMPETITION. Proceeds to Huron County Victim Services Municipality of BluewaterExeter, Ontario https://claybird.ca

- Brooks Pistol & Smallbore Rifle ClubThe pistol club has developed a relationship with the Brooks Food Bank, and has used its IPSC events as an opportunity for fundraising and food collection.

- Oldman river gun club. The club has hosted the summer games, held numerous shooting clinics and donated both time and money to the surrounding schools, clubs and charity organizations. http://www.omrgc.com

- Toronto International Rifle & Pistol Club makes donation to Innisfil Food Bank. https://www.barrietoday.com/local-ne...d-bank-2794090

- Barrie ladies charity shoot . ALL proceeds go to the May Court Club of Barrie. https://www.barriemaycourtclub.ca/events/

- Orillia Gun Club CHARITY AND NOT FOR PROFIT listed next to all local charities and public organizations in the area https://www.orilliamatters.com/direc...gun-club-30556

- In Prince Albert Northern Elite Firearms, in partnership with Pet Planet, donated 925-pounds worth of kibble. https://sasknow.com/2022/07/23/princ...0-lb-donation/

- Surrey BC INTERNATIONAL SHOOTING SUPPLIES GENEROUSLY DONATING TO THE FOOD BANK. https://bcfirearmsacademy.ca/interna...the-food-bank/

- Tavistock Rod and Gun Club aims to give back to community with House of Blessing donation. https://www.stratfordbeaconherald.co...ssing-donation

- The North Peace Rod and Gun Club donated $1,750 to the Salvation Army Food Bank in Fort St. John. https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/loc...d-bank-3508519

- Along with Yukon Outfitters Association and Hunter Education & Ethics Development, YFGA has partnered with the Whitehorse Food Bank to help those in need get access to fresh and local wild game. We believe that it is important to give back to our community and also that everyone in the Yukon should be able to enjoy the amazing wild game we have access to in our territory. https://yukonfga.ca/food-bank-donation-partnership/

- The Waterdown Rod and Gun Club, which is currently closed due to COVID-19, wanted to do its part to support the community during the pandemic. Members, including Rick Freitas and David and Santra Extance, turned out to the Carlisle-based food bank on May 13 to make a $2,000 donation on the club's behalf. On hand to accept the donation was Flamborough (Hamilton) Food Bank managing director Jim Leamen. https://www.flamboroughreview.com/ne...ity-donations/. Note how mentioned in context of overall community support of food bank

- Mitch Landriault, Elliot Lake Fur Harvesters treasurer, presents a $200 cheque to Ray Rochon, Elliot Lake Emergency Food Bank treasurer on March 13. 2023. https://www.elliotlakestandard.ca/ne...lake-food-bank

- you can add the Burlington Rifle & Revolver Club who were one of the first out of the gate in 2020 https://www.rangeburlington.ca/news-event-details/5 In your backyard and you should know about it and be actively promoting it. At least read it.

- Charity not in your blood? Another form of outreach. Sackville Rod & Gun Club Wrapup of 2022 Youth Waterfowl Workshop and Mentored Hunt. https://sackvillerodandgun.ca/index.html
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All that progress and where has it gotten us? Nowhere. Donating to food banks is GREAT, I've been a proponent of supporting local food banks for over 2 decades, but how does that change the opinion of Karen in Vancouver who votes Liberal and thinks the mere existence of guns in her city is a threat?

Gun owners are already one of if not THE most law abiding demographics in the country. We're not the problem, and anyone who cares about the details already knows that. Anyone who cares about the details knows gun owners aren't the ones shooting people, and it's not legally obtained guns being used in these shootings. So given that, how does any of what you suggest actually help when the people we need to reach don't care about such details?
 
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Minister Blair has repeatedly said Ottawa will offer fair market compensation to legal owners, although the government will not compensate Canadian retailers for business losses. The Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association (CSAAA) estimates that retailers will lose almost $1 billion in inventory that can’t be sold or returned to suppliers due to the Order-In-Council.

Government is very skilled it seems. Make settlement in exchange for support.
 
Their response is as about as credible as their president at this point.

These business wouldn’t be here without US in the first place, we pay their wages their mortgages and their bills with our patronage.
 
siciliano said:
Make sure to leave them a review on google to let them know how you really feel;

https://www.google.ca/search?q=csaaa&rlz=1C2CHBF_enCA897CA897&sxsrf=APwXEdfGj89dyNhsZ4YLkDp1DA1S01Fu3A%3A1682522169708&source=hp&ei=OUBJZKXcKejUkPIPqdC1yAU&iflsig=AOEireoAAAAAZElOSfXW5d4uMEIJWU91CwdWhTFL0NtI&ved=0ahUKEwjl3IDC68f-AhVoKkQIHSloDVkQ4dUDCAs&uact=5&oq=csaaa&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBwgjELECECcyBwgAEIAEEAoyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgcIABCABBAKMgcIABCABBAKMgcIABCABBAKMgcIABCABBAKOgQIIxAnOgoILhDHARCvARAnOggIABCABBCxAzoRCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QM6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARDRAzoHCAAQigUQQzoKCAAQigUQsQMQQzoKCC4QigUQsQMQQzoNCC4QigUQsQMQgwEQQzoNCAAQigUQsQMQgwEQQzoRCC4QgwEQxwEQsQMQ0QMQgAQ6DQgAEIoFELEDEIMBEApQAFiHCGCXDWgAcAB4AIABaIgB0AOSAQM0LjGYAQCgAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&bshm=bshqp/1

https://www.google.ca/search?q=elwood+epps&rlz=1C2CHBF_enCA897CA897&sxsrf=APwXEdccDtLyyOzkBDSwaXYKAsglIUMADA%3A1682522428806&ei=PEFJZPjrMJjBkPIPrv6v4AM&ved=0ahUKEwj4-ce97Mf-AhWYIEQIHS7_CzwQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=elwood+epps&gs_lcp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&bshm=bshqp/1#rlimm=15289252325030661649
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I see people left reviews on the first link which is for CSSA but none left reviews on the second link which is for Ellwood Epps. Add that 1 star rating folks. Flood the system
 
Galt said:
That's as bad as Budweisers rebuttal

Not a fair comparison but I'll make it anyways " they were gonna round up the J--s. anyways, so I thought if I did it , it'd be less harsh"
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Wanstalls killed it with this one LOL
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Suther said:
That could be a good thing. A bunch of retailers working with the csaaa will have a lot more power to demand fair compensation than you or me. Given the choice of the govt setting the price themselves and the govt setting the price in conjunction with retailers and the csaaa, I'm going with the latter.
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pathetic, spineless human being
 
It’s very interesting to me that we always say we need to stick together as a group and community and yet without all of the facts, throw community members under the bus with the first hint of partial information…

We don’t have all of the information yet guys and gals.

I’ve never personally bought from Epps but I’ll hold my judgment until we know more. There is way too much knee jerk reactions to all of this. Several board members of the CSAAA resigned today when the news came out… they were taken back by the announcement and they way the information came out, which tells us it isn’t the full truth and they don’t know everything that’s going down. Ryan from SFRC gave a good breakdown of that on his post from this evening.

Hang up your pitchforks for a bit, don’t be quite so eager to pull them down. Though don’t ever get rid of them because sometimes they are actually needed…
 
tj black said:
Minister Blair has repeatedly said Ottawa will offer fair market compensation to legal owners, although the government will not compensate Canadian retailers for business losses. The Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association (CSAAA) estimates that retailers will lose almost $1 billion in inventory that can’t be sold or returned to suppliers due to the Order-In-Council.

Government is very skilled it seems. Make settlement in exchange for support.
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Billy boy also said there will be grandfathering

Why has this not even been brought up once in the week long OIC court case last week

That should be on the table at an absolute minimum.....

Regardless, anything NR I already consider grandfathered
 
This is insanity. A deal with Mendicino that he parades about as progress towards disarmament is a deal with the devil.

What on Earth was the CSAAA thinking?! The optics on this is horrible for them. Talk about allowing us to be divided an conquered
 
Rwilco said:
Wow - people are really buying the government spin hook, line & sinker.

This is the government finally admitting they have a huge tort liability to these retailers. It's clear they have no plan in place to even deal with this retailer inventory. The retailers have a duty to mitigate their losses or they lose the ability to get compensated for just that portion of their losses through lawsuits.

This is not losing. It may not be winning either but it is certainly weathering.
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Agreed
 
Suther said:
All that progress and where has it gotten us? Nowhere. Donating to food banks is GREAT, I've been a proponent of supporting local food banks for over 2 decades, but how does that change the opinion of Karen in Vancouver who votes Liberal and thinks the mere existence of guns in her city is a threat?

Gun owners are already one of if not THE most law abiding demographics in the country. We're not the problem, and anyone who cares about the details already knows that. Anyone who cares about the details knows gun owners aren't the ones shooting people, and it's not legally obtained guns being used in these shootings. So given that, how does any of what you suggest actually help when the people we need to reach don't care about such details?
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You will never convince someone entrenched in ideology of the insanity of their ways. This is how cults operate.
 
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