You and your businesses are traitors.

Really? Why are you all harping on them?
Getting a fair buy out for those buisness who need it to survive is a great thing. Even more so having CSAAA helping with it as having a gun org help set the prices will set a precident for if /when they come after our privately owned guns.

I see lots of people donating to gun orgs to help fight, but who has donated to their local store or baught guns and equipment they didn't really need to help support those buisness and help mitigate their losses over the bans?
 
Because it fed right into the Liberals' hands.
This is a great PR win for Mendicino and a terrible loss for the CSAAA and gun owners. The CSAAA has allowed themselves to be the wedge that separates gun owners. To show the lack of a united front.

Mendicino is licking his lips and grinning from ear to ear. The CSAAA gave that to him on a platter
 
Really? Why are you all harping on them?
Getting a fair buy out for those buisness who need it to survive is a great thing. Even more so having CSAAA helping with it as having a gun org help set the prices will set a precident for if /when they come after our privately owned guns.

I see lots of people donating to gun orgs to help fight, but who has donated to their local store or baught guns and equipment they didn't really need to help support those buisness and help mitigate their losses over the bans?

When two members of CSAAA board already have resigned - may be they knew a good reason for which CSAAA was being harped on?
 
When two members of CSAAA board already have resigned - may be they knew a good reason for which CSAAA was being harped on?

Maybe that's because they have seen the mob mentality kicking off here and needed to do so to save their businesses. After all, people are calling to boycott those stores.
 
Gun owners are pissed at the Liberals. Any gun related organization that does anything that can be viewed as assisting them is inviting trouble. The CSAAA is asking for trouble and in my opinion they now fully deserve it.
 
Wow, what a thread!

It looks to me that there are two positions here.

The first position, let's call it the "resistance" position, says the liberals are the enemy, and any and all co-operation with the enemy is collaboration, and collaborators are traitors. Instead, we must resist till the very end - fight 'em till we can't.

The second position, let's call it the "collaborators" , says that if we co-operate a little with the enemy, they, in turn, will let us live on and survive - so we do what it takes to survive. We go along to get along.

It would be easy for someone, evaluating those two positions, to get sucked into the heroic idea. They might start thinking of world war two and the heroic resistance against the nazis - and when the nazi's were eventually beaten, remember the awesome justice they metted out against those collaborators who helped the nazis?!

We might even think of today and Ukraine - how at the start a lot of people said that Ukraine should submit and co-operate in order to survive; if they conceded eastern Ukraine to russia, for example, then maybe putin would be appeased and leave them alone. But of course, that's not what ukraine did! Zelynski said "I don't need a ride out of here- I need ammunition!" And those brave ukrainians chose death rather than surrender. Remember that? "Russian warship... go ##### yourself!"

Thinking of examples like that, we'd all want to be the heros - especially when our actual daily lives are just regular go to work, do our jobs, come home and watch the leafs lose.

But here's the thing: those situations are totally different, and if we apply the logic of one situation to a different one, we're going to be led astray.

In those cases, the "enemy" really was a foreign invader - an actual enemy - and when choosing to resist, there was actually a chance that, against overwhelming odds, the resistance could win - as does seem to be happening in Ukraine.

Here with us, today, the "enemy" is actually the legally elected government, and at the end of the day, unless we think we're going to literally rise up in an actual armed rebellion (which, I shouldn't have to say, is absolutely not going to happen), we will eventually submit to the government. You may not like it, you may do it with all the grumbling, complaining, and anger that you can muster, but in the end you will submit, or eventually they'll just take all your stuff and throw you in jail.

So given that this isn't a situation where we can heroically resist, but one where we will do what they say eventually, what's the best way forward? Barring a change in government, all that prohibited stock cannot be sold. If they just sit on that inventory, these small stores will go bankrupt. Co-operating with the government on some sort of stock buy-back is the only way for them to survive. The "collaborators" should therefore really be re-named "the survivors" .

What's the alternative? They resist, and do not survive.

And what do you have then?

A much weaker gun industry in canada. A place where technically guns are legal and technically you can own them - but there's no place left to buy them!

Can't you see that outcome is exactly what the liberals are hoping for? Can"t you see that's exactly what the liberals want to happen? Everytime another gun store closes, a liberal gets their wings!

So you can buy into the fake and mis-applied heroism of the "resist" narrative, and you can proclaim your boycott of this store or that, but by doing so you will be playing right into the liberal's hands, and you will be contributing to the decline and fall of the gun industry in canada.

Do you see that? You'll be doing the liberal's work for them.

In other words, the "resistance" needs to be renamed "the patsies"

Dont be a patsy!
 
Wow, what a thread!

It looks to me that there are two positions here.

The first position, let's call it the "resistance" position, says the liberals are the enemy, and any and all co-operation with the enemy is collaboration, and collaborators are traitors. Instead, we must resist till the very end - fight 'em till we can't.

The second position, let's call it the "collaborators" , says that if we co-operate a little with the enemy, they, in turn, will let us live on and survive - so we do what it takes to survive. We go along to get along.

It would be easy for someone, evaluating those two positions, to get sucked into the heroic idea. They might start thinking of world war two and the heroic resistance against the nazis - and when the nazi's were eventually beaten, remember the awesome justice they metted out against those collaborators who helped the nazis?!

We might even think of today and Ukraine - how at the start a lot of people said that Ukraine should submit and co-operate in order to survive; if they conceded eastern Ukraine to russia, for example, then maybe putin would be appeased and leave them alone. But of course, that's not what ukraine did! Zelynski said "I don't need a ride out of here- I need ammunition!" And those brave ukrainians chose death rather than surrender. Remember that? "Russian warship... go ##### yourself!"

Thinking of examples like that, we'd all want to be the heros - especially when our actual daily lives are just regular go to work, do our jobs, come home and watch the leafs lose.

But here's the thing: those situations are totally different, and if we apply the logic of one situation to a different one, we're going to be led astray.

In those cases, the "enemy" really was a foreign invader - an actual enemy - and when choosing to resist, there was actually a chance that, against overwhelming odds, the resistance could win - as does seem to be happening in Ukraine.

Here with us, today, the "enemy" is actually the legally elected government, and at the end of the day, unless we think we're going to literally rise up in an actual armed rebellion (which, I shouldn't have to say, is absolutely not going to happen), we will eventually submit to the government. You may not like it, you may do it with all the grumbling, complaining, and anger that you can muster, but in the end you will submit, or eventually they'll just take all your stuff and throw you in jail.

So given that this isn't a situation where we can heroically resist, but one where we will do what they say eventually, what's the best way forward? Barring a change in government, all that prohibited stock cannot be sold. If they just sit on that inventory, these small stores will go bankrupt. Co-operating with the government on some sort of stock buy-back is the only way for them to survive. The "collaborators" should therefore really be re-named "the survivors" .

What's the alternative? They resist, and do not survive.

And what do you have then?

A much weaker gun industry in canada. A place where technically guns are legal and technically you can own them - but there's no place left to buy them!

Can't you see that outcome is exactly what the liberals are hoping for? Can"t you see that's exactly what the liberals want to happen? Everytime another gun store closes, a liberal gets their wings!

So you can buy into the fake and mis-applied heroism of the "resist" narrative, and you can proclaim your boycott of this store or that, but by doing so you will be playing right into the liberal's hands, and you will be contributing to the decline and fall of the gun industry in canada.

Do you see that? You'll be doing the liberal's work for them.

In other words, the "resistance" needs to be renamed "the patsies"

Dont be a patsy!

Guess someone has to be first on the train.. enjoy the short ride.
 
Wow, what a thread!

It looks to me that there are two positions here.

The first position, let's call it the "resistance" position, says the liberals are the enemy, and any and all co-operation with the enemy is collaboration, and collaborators are traitors. Instead, we must resist till the very end - fight 'em till we can't.

The second position, let's call it the "collaborators" , says that if we co-operate a little with the enemy, they, in turn, will let us live on and survive - so we do what it takes to survive. We go along to get along.

It would be easy for someone, evaluating those two positions, to get sucked into the heroic idea. They might start thinking of world war two and the heroic resistance against the nazis - and when the nazi's were eventually beaten, remember the awesome justice they metted out against those collaborators who helped the nazis?!

We might even think of today and Ukraine - how at the start a lot of people said that Ukraine should submit and co-operate in order to survive; if they conceded eastern Ukraine to russia, for example, then maybe putin would be appeased and leave them alone. But of course, that's not what ukraine did! Zelynski said "I don't need a ride out of here- I need ammunition!" And those brave ukrainians chose death rather than surrender. Remember that? "Russian warship... go ##### yourself!"

Thinking of examples like that, we'd all want to be the heros - especially when our actual daily lives are just regular go to work, do our jobs, come home and watch the leafs lose.

But here's the thing: those situations are totally different, and if we apply the logic of one situation to a different one, we're going to be led astray.

In those cases, the "enemy" really was a foreign invader - an actual enemy - and when choosing to resist, there was actually a chance that, against overwhelming odds, the resistance could win - as does seem to be happening in Ukraine.

Here with us, today, the "enemy" is actually the legally elected government, and at the end of the day, unless we think we're going to literally rise up in an actual armed rebellion (which, I shouldn't have to say, is absolutely not going to happen), we will eventually submit to the government. You may not like it, you may do it with all the grumbling, complaining, and anger that you can muster, but in the end you will submit, or eventually they'll just take all your stuff and throw you in jail.

So given that this isn't a situation where we can heroically resist, but one where we will do what they say eventually, what's the best way forward? Barring a change in government, all that prohibited stock cannot be sold. If they just sit on that inventory, these small stores will go bankrupt. Co-operating with the government on some sort of stock buy-back is the only way for them to survive. The "collaborators" should therefore really be re-named "the survivors" .

What's the alternative? They resist, and do not survive.

And what do you have then?

A much weaker gun industry in canada. A place where technically guns are legal and technically you can own them - but there's no place left to buy them!

Can't you see that outcome is exactly what the liberals are hoping for? Can"t you see that's exactly what the liberals want to happen? Everytime another gun store closes, a liberal gets their wings!

So you can buy into the fake and mis-applied heroism of the "resist" narrative, and you can proclaim your boycott of this store or that, but by doing so you will be playing right into the liberal's hands, and you will be contributing to the decline and fall of the gun industry in canada.

Do you see that? You'll be doing the liberal's work for them.

In other words, the "resistance" needs to be renamed "the patsies"

Dont be a patsy!

What a long winded load of horse excrement!!

I'll support those that didn't collaborate and give the Liberals their "significant milestone" headline.

Resistance is not futile, patsy. Court challenges persist. Making them display their incompetence in getting anything physically done is a proven strategy (ie LGR). Boondoggle and clusterf*ck them into failure. We do have an upcoming election with a very unpopular PM you might be aware of? A contender who has stated he will reverse the bans (whether you believe it or not, we can easily delay to find out).

There are plenty of shopping options available to us other than with those that collaborate.

You roll over. I'll stand firm and face the enemy head on.

C.
 
Ellwood and Don must be turning over in their their graves seeing what you have done to the “Epps” name.
 
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In other words, the "resistance" needs to be renamed "the patsies"

Dont be a patsy!

Wrong.
The CSAAA who just became the poster boys for the Liberal confiscation plan - the grinning supporters showing even the "experts" agree we shouldn't have these guns - are the patsies.

Just ask anyone who relies on the news to understand gun ownership in Canada.
You know. The other 25 million citizens we rely on to vote against bad policy.


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And if you're looking for a name for the "resistance", well, with the CSAAA signing off on the Liberal policy as fair compensation, guess that makes us the extremists Trudeau always said we were.
 
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Every. Single. Board of directors of the CSAAA should have their business boycotted.

Without us they would have never had a business yet here they are throwing us and our collections under the bus so they can get paid, #### they will probably only get a tax write off but eh that’s still OK with them because they get to offload the inventory they willingly stocked up on to try to sell at gouging prices as bans were incoming.

Never forget that these stores whining about the inventory they are stuck with were tripping over their own two feet to order as much as they could as fast as they could so they could charge never before seen retail prices..

If they gave a #### about us they would have been selling these soon to be banned guns at cost to increase ownership numbers and get rid of their inventory instead the gouged you and I.

Then when the band happen, they are the first to sell us out again to get their money.

They are all greeedy horrible businesses that wouldn’t be around without us so let’s speak with our wallet and put some stores with absolute trash leadership out of business, if we are worried about the market being smaller there’s no point letting hard earned dollars be spent with stores that actively work against us. Let them go and support the ones that support us like Prophet river.
 
There are many gun stores that provide service to FUDD hunters only.....some quotes I have heard are ,we don't believe in handguns and we won't carry SKS rifles or any other assault rifles in this store.....it's easy to divide and conquer when we are divided to begin with....
 
There are many gun stores that provide service to FUDD hunters only.....some quotes I have heard are ,we don't believe in handguns and we won't carry SKS rifles or any other assault rifles in this store.....it's easy to divide and conquer when we are divided to begin with....

It will be very interesting to hear what the FUDDS will have to say when the feds want to ban their 'high powered sniper rifles'. That day is coming...

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Here with us, today, the "enemy" is actually the legally elected government, and at the end of the day, unless we think we're going to literally rise up in an actual armed rebellion (which, I shouldn't have to say, is absolutely not going to happen), we will eventually submit to the government. You may not like it, you may do it with all the grumbling, complaining, and anger that you can muster, but in the end you will submit, or eventually they'll just take all your stuff and throw you in jail.

incorrect. as you can see by the removal of the amendments and the new amendment that would only "ban" future new guns designed and made after C21 would become law shows that resistance works. all the roadblocks showed the govt that they dont have the money, resources, and logistics to go forward with their ban and take back guns already in circulation. No armed rebellion required.

i am not of the mindset to "just give the robber your wallet and they will leave you alone" or a "collaborator" by your definition.

as others have pointed out, an election will come eventually and the more time we can buy, the better our chances (not to mention we are waiting on the outcome of lawsuits etc)

as for throwing us in jail, you think they can throw 2.3 million gun owners in jail? and all retailers if they stuck together? why is the concept of "stick together" so hard to understand? Maybe watch Gladiator again.

RL
 

"Statements posted to the association's Twitter account insist the group is not taking part in the actual buyback program, and is participating to negotiate fair compensation and a simple process. It said they remain skeptical that the buyback program will work because there isn't clear money to fund it nor a clear process to implement it."

That aged well.
 
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