You asked for it, we delivered! UTS-15 Torture Test!

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How is that a torture test? I call that a normal outing at the range or bush
 
Wolverine Guy said:
Thanks for your well informed opinion
What is the basis for your position on the newest version. When did you handle and shoot one??
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I've seen many many many reviews on this gun. You guess what the results were. No need to shoot it when you see it breaks (usually polymer around the feeding port breaking) in few review videos/pictures.

Even someone like FPS Russia on youtube was trying to have some fun with the gun, not even reviewing it, and he went through 3 of these before being able to shoot the toilet. He was doing a gun vs toilet thing and wasnt too sure which one would resist the test.... The third one he had was able to function for a brief moment. So the toilet lost.


Edit: Ah, i see the key word here: Newest version. Tell us more about the newest version. What is new exactly ? Besides the marketing ?
 
Rick911 said:
I've seen many many many reviews on this gun. You guess what the results were. No need to shoot it when you see it breaks (usually polymer around the feeding port breaking) in few review videos/pictures.

Even someone like FPS Russia on youtube was trying to have some fun with the gun, not even reviewing it, and he went through 3 of these before being able to shoot the toilet. He was doing a gun vs toilet thing and wasnt too sure which one would resist the test.... The third one he had was able to function for a brief moment. So the toilet lost.


Edit: Ah, i see the key word here: Newest version. Tell us more about the newest version. What is new exactly ? Besides the marketing ?
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I believe the old port/rear parts that were breaking due to polymer material have been replaced with a magnesium-type metal.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
This video is a follow up to http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-at-the-UTS-15-shotgun-featuring-a-video-demo!

Is your opinion based on what you have read and seen previously or on your own personal experience? Maybe you would like to do a personal review on this shotgun, care to visit? we will provide all the ammo you can shoot!
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My opinion is based on the older one which is, as i said, an uber POS.

Now, my question remains.

What exactly is new vs the older one ? Parts ? Springs ? Polymers ?
 
Not necessarily interested in ragging on the gun, but...if you put the original version out there for sale, and every single person that comes in contact with it is unimpressed, that speaks to the integrity of the manufacturer who chooses to put a POS out there for the masses to beta test at their expense.

It essentially becomes a 'fool me once' situation.

Redemption is an earned thing. Not everyone is going to line up like sheep for V2.

Just my 0.02
 
Rick911 said:
My opinion is based on the older one which is, as i said, an uber POS.

Now, my question remains.

What exactly is new vs the older one ? Parts ? Springs ? Polymers ?
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Firstly, the guns in the other videos with the exception of the Hickok45 guns are the American made versions, no the Turkish guns.
Secondly in the first video we did you will find that the updates are talked about. The plastic loading block/selector has been replaced with a new solid magnesium unit, with an updated 5mm selector bolt and metal selector. These units are very strong and will hold up under pressure for sure. The top rail is now also magnesium instead of polymer and there are increased welds on the barrel bands. The only problems we had with the first guns were SOME selectors breaking and a few with weak barrel welds, due to human error. Feeding issues etc were due to user error not the shotgun.
 
Anyad Pitchaya said:
Not necessarily interested in ragging on the gun, but...if you put the original version out there for sale, and every single person that comes in contact with it is unimpressed, that speaks to the integrity of the manufacturer who chooses to put a POS out there for the masses to beta test at their expense.

It essentially becomes a 'fool me once' situation.

Redemption is an earned thing. Not everyone is going to line up like sheep for V2.

Just my 0.02
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For interests sake, not "every single person that comes in contact with it is unimpressed", we have many many happy users who are very pleased with their shotguns and have put many rounds down the pipe of one of these. It is only the people who have had a problem who have posted, giving a skewed impression of the shotgun. I would think that before someone can say that it is a complete POS that some range time and evaluation of said gun on a personal level should take place.

The purpose of our videos was not to have everyone line up like sheep and hand out their money, but to show that the issues that the UTS-15 had in Canada, had been addressed and improved upon, in a very timely matter by the manufacturer. I am the first one to admit these shotguns won't be for everyone, but at least we have shown that the problems have been fixed and given an honest, straight forward review and test of the newer shotguns. It would have been quite easy to edit out some of the jams caused by the old paper cased ammo to make it look like these guns functioned completely flawlessly, but we didn't as we wanted to show the truth, and I highly doubt any other shotgun out there, my old beloved Winchester defender included would have performed any better with any less errors than what the new UTS-15 did.
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
The purpose of our videos was not to have everyone line up like sheep and hand out their money, but to show that the issues that the UTS-15 had in Canada, had been addressed and improved upon, in a very timely matter by the manufacturer. I am the first one to admit these shotguns won't be for everyone, but at least we have shown that the problems have been fixed and given an honest, straight forward review and test of the newer shotguns. It would have been quite easy to edit out some of the jams caused by the old paper cased ammo to make it look like these guns functioned completely flawlessly, but we didn't as we wanted to show the truth, and I highly doubt any other shotgun out there, my old beloved Winchester defender included would have performed any better with any less errors than what the new UTS-15 did.
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I did notice quite a few jams and FTF in the video. Did you guys try it out and/or make a video with different kinds of ammo? I am curious how it would handle the cheaper trap rounds for playing around camping. Looks like a fun gun. But im not sold for that price.
 
HIT_MAN said:
I did notice quite a few jams and FTF in the video. Did you guys try it out and/or make a video with different kinds of ammo? I am curious how it would handle the cheaper trap rounds for playing around camping. Looks like a fun gun. But im not sold for that price.
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I Didnt watch the full thing..... but the first one looked like he short stroked it.... so Human error, not the firearm IMO.
(Like I said, I only made it to the first one, didnt see the others)
 
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