Your choice of C&C Bullets?

"Hey! How exactly is a rainbow made? How exactly does a sun set? How exactly does a posi-trac rear-end on a Plymouth work? It just does."

Sorry - I digress.

To the original poster - I shot a fair amount of c and c bullets - noslers, hornady, sierra, and speer in a few different calibres. My favourite out of the lot was the old Nosler solid base.

I still shoot a whack of ballistic tips - but I am fully away they are fragile and use them where that performance is applicable. I have used partitions, A-frames and Barnes mostly for hunting due to the odd jacket separation.

The funny part is the confirmed jacket separations on game were always discovered in dead animals lol.
 
The funny part is the confirmed jacket separations on game were always discovered in dead animals lol.
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And probably in very quickly dead animals too. The most damage a bullet can do is when it blows up in the vitals. The problem, which isn't near as common as some people seem to think is when it doesn't penetrate far enough.
 
track said:
LOL!!! C&C or whatever you guys wish to call it, is most irrelevant to reloading in my world, and likewise, there are many other tech writings in manuals that I'm really not interested. As long as I can customize a load for my firearms, with 1/2 sub moa and kill mature animals, I'm a very happy camper. I keep it simple.
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They do say that ignorance is bliss. No wonder you're so happy.
 
Another c&c bullet I really like in my savage muzzleloader is the Barnes original. Terrific accuracy and performance out if those things.

Not a dig on you Track I have no intrest in putting a dog in is race but I use Barnes original spitzers not the flats
 
rem338win said:
Well being an expert on myths we'll give you that one, except that time, science and some great journaling on behalf of quite a few intelligent people has proven that energy transfer is a myth. If it were true, the lowly .243 would throw a trophy whitetail sideways as if it were blindsided by an NFL linebacker. But it doesn't.

And "spitzer"??!! Good lord, that was a drift. FYI Nosler refers to their competitions lowly "cup and core" methods as being inferior so it ain't "jargon".....

Remember folks, you can be ignorant after claiming supremacy if you only use that ignorance on "the big ones".....
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FYI some folks shoot the big ones....and some folks shoot the dinks,like yourself....that aint no myth :)
 
Whitetail Junkie said:
FYI some folks shoot the big ones....and some folks shoot the dinks,like yourself....that aint no myth :)
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Sure thing kid, and when you grow up you may consider the fact that most need little affirmation on their accomplishments or even on the mere items we own. And we sure don't feel the need to pump our pictures all over the intranet on every thread or post that we feel the need to chest thump on.
But I digress, we'll revert to your familial normative and claim superiority and experience in all things til proven stupid and then claim to be a disciple of KISS.
Shoo....
 
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FYI some folks shoot the big ones....and some folks shoot the dinks,like yourself....that aint no myth :)
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Some folks shoot off their big mouths...and some folks are just dinks.

Amazing you find the time to drop all those trophies when it seems you're constantly scrambling to bail out the 'ol man whenever he sticks his foot in his mouth on an internet forum.
 
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BigUglyMan said:
They do say that ignorance is bliss. No wonder you're so happy.
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There are many things that I'm ignorant of, probably because that I still have some innocence....... must be from rural remote upbringing, who knows. Your quite correct, I'm a very happy family man! Life is good, and I can't wait to line-up another big boy and hammer him with a spitzer. LOL!!!
 
I have took to buying economy box ammo over the counter...have not felt hampered or inferior. Killed game with hornady, sierra,speer,remington,nosler,winchester,barnes bullets. If using cup and core it is best to shoot heavy for caliber bullets....If you are shooting light and fast it is better to use premium bullet like a bonded or mono ect.
 
track said:
There are many things that I'm ignorant of, probably because that I still have some innocence....... must be from rural remote upbringing, who knows. Your quite correct, I'm a very happy family man! Life is good, and I can't wait to line-up another big boy and hammer him with a spitzer. LOL!!!
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Bow... exit stage left... curtains...
 
track said:
There are many things that I'm ignorant of, probably because that I still have some innocence....... must be from rural remote upbringing, who knows. Your quite correct, I'm a very happy family man! Life is good, and I can't wait to line-up another big boy and hammer him with a spitzer. LOL!!!
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I've found good success with my 265 Hornady 444 interlock bullet, Speer FN for the 32 Special and Dominion 32 Special and 303.

It is my opinion that good c&c is excellent except for close-in with a fast magnums or cartridges. I turned to partitions years ago for a 7MM Mag and 243 with good results but stuck with the 444 for many decades so sold off the speedsters.
 
I've read at least one "bullet test report" which incuded the Hornady Interlock along with a bunch of the so-called "premiums". Though the details escape me, I do recall that the Interlock, at about 1/2 the price of the others, fared quite well. That being said, shooting bullets into gelatin or wet newsprint may be an entirely meaningless endeavour. I'll be the first to admit that I am easily taken in by the marketing hype around the monos and bonded bullets. A close friend and frequent hunting partner though, has always loaded interlocks, and they have always performed well for him.

P.S. Thanks to the previous posters on this thread who provided a good measure of humor and entertainment. I might go down to the gun room now and load up some rounds with pointy lead bullets covered almost to the end with a copper jacket.
 
Well this thread is really going places...

Another cup and core bullet I have had decent results with and haven't seen mentioned yet is the Winchester silvertips. I have found them quite decent, at least in a 30/30. A shame they discontinued them. I have a small stash left, but I have now loaded a whack of 170gr partitions that I got a deal on, these will keep me going for a long time.

Luke
 
When I can find them I still shoot .308/180 gr bulk bullets from Winchester (Power Point) and Remington (Core-Lokt), but at one time I burned up more .308/165 Hornady BTSPs in my .30/06 rifles than all the others combined. My .375 practice bullet is the Hornady .375/270 Interlock and for the .458 its the 500 gr Interlock. The Hornady .375/270 Interlock might be the best bullet for my up and coming .375 Scoville, although I'll be experimenting with both inexpensive and expensive bullets. The 9.3 bullet that's the most affordable has to be the 285 gr Previ, which by the way looks exactly like the shinier 285 gr Lapua at about 3X the price! My target rifle has been fed match bullets from Sierra, Hornady, Berger, and Matrix, and the Matrix .308/210 VLD is now my preference. In high velocity small bores like the .22 centerfires and the .243 I've pretty much gone to mission specific bullets, be they match, frangible, solids, or premium game bullets and have pretty much dropped the cup and core Sierras and Hornadys I've used in the past. Mind you, these bullets remain decent big game choices in moderate capacity 6.5, 7mm, and .30 caliber cartridges where neither the target density nor the impact velocity is terribly high.
 
I do not use a lot of C&C bullets for hunting, preferring the partition and Accubond over all others. [Scirocco II is looking great as well]
Have been using the TTSX a bit lately, and it has worked well. Will try the GMX this fall.

Poster above mentioned the "old" design WW Silvertip, I have several hundred 30 cal, 180 grain Silvertips in my stash.
Also a couple hundred 30 Cal 150 grainers. [for my 300 Savage only, lol]

I have found these to be very reliable and work well as long as one does not try to "chase" them too hard.
My personal experience has indicated that up to about 2800 fps MV, they are great. at 3100 MV they become a bomb that may not get in to the vitals of even a deer.

I have several of these I have recovered from moose, shot from a 30-06, and they look like classic mushrooms.
All were shot from a 30-06 at about 2750 fps MV.
They do not generally group as well as some other bullets, but 1¼ moa is about average....good enough for most hunting.

I had a Hornady, .277 - 140 grain Spitzer Boattail IL "explode" on the rib of a Whitetail deer. Made me a bit shy of this particular bullet.
Second shot dropped this deer, but the autopsy told the tale. Large surface wound, but no penetration into the rib cavity.

The Remington Cor-Lokt has long had a good reputation as a game bullet, and I agree as long as velocities are kept reasonably conservative.

I would not use Ballistic Tips, SSTs, or similar bullets on game in any Magnum chambering unless they are very heavy for diameter.
Ditto any C&C boattail bullet. I DO use plenty of the aforementioned for paper punching and other practice.

I absolutely eschew using any of the so-called VLD or match offerings for hunting anything other than varmints, where explosive characteristics are good.

Please don't send me any single spaced, 3 page letters trying to convince me that these are proven game-getters, lol. ;)

I would guess that the bottom line is: If you have had success with a certain cartridge/bullet combination, why look elsewhere?
No point in fixing what is apparently not broken.

Regards, Dave.
 
I've also had very good luck with interlocks over the years and cant remember a single so called failure while using them myself.
I still prefer the 195grain spire point above all others in the 8x57 for bear and Im sure it would be a great moose or elk bullet as well. Times do change though and I find Im using a lot of the speer deep curls these days and have been tickled pink with their performance thus far, now if only they'd make one about 260-270 grains in .366 I might have to quit paying so much for partitions.
 
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