** Your NEA102 build **
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I guess NEA got all butthurt about the chittty handguards they produce and added non rotating tabs on the upper....lol What a joke now ill have to mill those off... hahhahahaha
So I guess a stripped receiver set is out of the question as well, Since they are pretty much forcing you to use their handguards.
So I guess a stripped receiver set is out of the question as well, Since they are pretty much forcing you to use their handguards.
DealersAdvocate
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I picked up a dpms A2 stock and jumped on the trigger tech black Friday deal. We'll see what else it needs when it gets here.
That Brownell BCG is impressive!!
That Brownell BCG is impressive!!
Please explain. How do you know that they changed things up?
Here is the link to the new BCL 102,
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1644789-BCL-Update-Nov-24th
I snagged a guys picture off of FB, he outlined the differences on the RH side of the new receivers,
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Here is the link to the new BCL 102,
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1644789-BCL-Update-Nov-24th
I snagged a guys picture off of FB, he outlined the differences on the RH side of the new receivers,
Well, WTF are these guys doing? they are making changes to the rifle, and people are pre-ordering parts and now #### doesn't fit/won't work.
I have had my rifle back to them now twice, and it has been there about a month. I sure hope to hell they do not stick the new upper on my old lower. I will be really pissed!
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DaveMachine
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Perhaps it's a big beta testing program. Some of the changes don't make much sense to me.
Why the sudden change to a normal trigger guard?
Why is there a need to re-shape the brass deflector?
Why the is the area near the upper/lower seam different? Am I going to run into compatibility issues if I buy a stripped upper to run on my 1st gen lower?
Why the sudden change to a normal trigger guard?
Why is there a need to re-shape the brass deflector?
Why the is the area near the upper/lower seam different? Am I going to run into compatibility issues if I buy a stripped upper to run on my 1st gen lower?
Like I said, my rifle is at BCL right now, I hope the upper and lower still fit. Like lots of people, I have a slew of parts sitting back at home waiting for the rifle. Now I am hoping that the parts still fit. FFS, BCL is really pissing me off!
Maybe they should have focused on the rifle feeding and extracting issues instead of creating something proprietary that people cant modify now.
But hey what do I know.
Also no more dust cover, I don't see a spot to pin one in. Who needs a dust cover right?
Good job BCL!
Oh well now I have a midwest handguard that won't fit because of those tiny little anti rotation tabs they put in the upper. I guess people have been experiencing a rotating handguard??????
Who the fack are these guys listening to when making design modifications? Might as well put in a low drag spoiler as well, works on formula 1 cars right...
But hey what do I know.
Also no more dust cover, I don't see a spot to pin one in. Who needs a dust cover right?
Good job BCL!
Oh well now I have a midwest handguard that won't fit because of those tiny little anti rotation tabs they put in the upper. I guess people have been experiencing a rotating handguard??????
Who the fack are these guys listening to when making design modifications? Might as well put in a low drag spoiler as well, works on formula 1 cars right...
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Lol, is this crap enough to convince people that pre-order is the stupidest thing the retailers have suckered buyers into over the last few years? It's just a way to keep us paying the premium price for a rifle that should already be dropping in value after the reviews and all the trouble some guys have had with them.
Pre-sale is taking advantage of your desperation for a decent NR rifle. You don't even know what you're buying yet you'll throw money at them and just hope it lives up to the hype. Ever notice how there are no pre-orders for restricted rifles? Because we aren't desperate for those, we can just buy an AR for $1000 and be done but as soon as it says NON RESTRICTED people go nuts and have to have it even though there is no real information about it.
What ever happened to buying a rifle and having it shipped the next day? You know what you're getting that way not this crap NEA/BCL is pulling by changing stuff between the first and second run? I would like to see them changing things between the first and second but they should have focused on making it reliable and getting their QC department on the ball so there aren't so many duds making it into the hands of customers instead of worrying about ambi controls and cosmetic junk. AR's have been ambidextrous since they were originally released, the new ambi stuff might be nice but it sure isn't needed in order to use the rifle efficiently from either shoulder.
Maybe by the time they make it to the fifth generation or so they might get around to making a rifle that works correctly out of the box. New name, same old NEA.
Pre-sale is taking advantage of your desperation for a decent NR rifle. You don't even know what you're buying yet you'll throw money at them and just hope it lives up to the hype. Ever notice how there are no pre-orders for restricted rifles? Because we aren't desperate for those, we can just buy an AR for $1000 and be done but as soon as it says NON RESTRICTED people go nuts and have to have it even though there is no real information about it.
What ever happened to buying a rifle and having it shipped the next day? You know what you're getting that way not this crap NEA/BCL is pulling by changing stuff between the first and second run? I would like to see them changing things between the first and second but they should have focused on making it reliable and getting their QC department on the ball so there aren't so many duds making it into the hands of customers instead of worrying about ambi controls and cosmetic junk. AR's have been ambidextrous since they were originally released, the new ambi stuff might be nice but it sure isn't needed in order to use the rifle efficiently from either shoulder.
Maybe by the time they make it to the fifth generation or so they might get around to making a rifle that works correctly out of the box. New name, same old NEA.
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Apparently that is simply because they have not drilled the holes on the particular receiver in the photos.
I am not sure whats up with the brass deflector as I have had no problems with mine not deflecting brass...
I like the contour of the lower without the raised bits, it was probably to cut down weight.
I guess the trigger guard was so people could further customize theirs?
People will complain no matter how much they change. The grass is always greener...
I am simply happy to have a Non-Res AR in .308. So Kewl. I am looking forward to maybe getting a light profile barrel to lighten things up a tad.
Haters gonna hate. After being on CGN for so many years you would think experienced people would understand what they are getting into with pre-orders... Guess not.
Pax+Caritas
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What are the 3 things 99% of people always change on an AR pattern rifle: stock, grip, handguard
Now they put in proprietary tabs so you cant change the handguard.
Oh well what can I do, nothing, so thats that. Still waiting for my rifle, in the meantime I'm warming up my dremel.
I hate preorders, I really do, but there is no other way to get a rifle these days. China has changed the game completely. People don't manufacture something, build inventory, and then sell anymore. Now they ask that you buy something they haven't created yet. If you don't do that, they won't build it. Even my Tesla I had to put 1000$ down 2 years ago, and I'm probably going to wait another 2 years till I get my car.
Now they put in proprietary tabs so you cant change the handguard.
Oh well what can I do, nothing, so thats that. Still waiting for my rifle, in the meantime I'm warming up my dremel.
I hate preorders, I really do, but there is no other way to get a rifle these days. China has changed the game completely. People don't manufacture something, build inventory, and then sell anymore. Now they ask that you buy something they haven't created yet. If you don't do that, they won't build it. Even my Tesla I had to put 1000$ down 2 years ago, and I'm probably going to wait another 2 years till I get my car.
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I'm no hater, I actually own NEA products but that doesn't blind me to the FACT that they are letting crap through the QC department and into the hands of customers that should have been caught. Now the new owner has to pay from his own pocket to return the rifle for repair and wait another month or two for his rifle to come back.
You should also open your eyes a little, just because your rifle is working fine for it's first 100 rounds doesn't mean that they all do, and it also doesn't mean that your rifle will last till 500 rounds. I understand that the occasional item will make it through QC to the customer and that it happens with every company but if you consider that they only released 77 rifles in the first batch and how many of those have had issues it's not a good track record. Even the rifle Jay got that he was so happy with that was reliable and decently accurate needed the gas rings replaced by the time it made it to Jerry for the accuracy testing thread. Gas rings should last a few thousand rounds not a couple hundred.
I would like to buy one of these some day but there is no way I'm buying one until they get their sh!t together and stop putting defective products into the hands of their customers. But as one of our members pointed out, I'll never buy one if I wait for them to build things right 99% of the time. There are better options out there right now and I'm more than happy to spend a little more money to have something that works. If they decide to sell upper/lower receiver sets I would definitely build my own rifle with their receivers but from the looks of it by the time they get around to doing that there will be others on the market which will undoubtedly be higher quality.
The 102 has so much potential, it's too bad NEA/BCL is Fing it up, if the problems continue in the second batch I doubt there will be much demand for the third batch.
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Hopefully the gen 2 rifles will be better than the first batch and drop free bolt heads will be a thing of the past...
You never know maybe I bought all this crap for nothing... LoL.
Doesn't really matter if you use it, as long as you're having fun spending your money it's worth it.
Yup, hopefully by then they get some better trained monkeys in the QC department.
