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Shell holders are not standard, have larger diameter primer holes to fit their case prep tools.
Need different die bushing setup between the LNL AP press and the LNL classic. No idea about the Iron Model.
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Lost track of how many items they replaced for free.
Grains in primer system causes almost all the priming issues, other is Primer piston height adjustment have to be very close or it will interfere with primer slide.
Powder measure case activation was helped considerably by PTX Powder measure stop.
 
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- and the dies don't reach down far enough; on my LnL I gave-up trying to reload 9mm because it wouldn't resize them well enough to fit in the chamber. I load 9mm on my Square Deal.

- and the S-shaped stainless steel rod that works the primer feed, likes to catch the feeder bar instead of sliding it nicely back-and-forth, whereupon it cocks itself to the side and doesn't feed a primer - this is especially bad after you loc-tite the pin on the feeder bar that the roller rides-on; because if you don't, that pin falls-out, goes straight to the floor and is never seen again; if you do, the loc-tite seeps-out while setting and binds the roller to the pin, and the roller never turns again. I put a cheap spring that sorta' fits over the top plastic holder for that rod, so it pushes the primer feeder bar down at the top of the stroke - this has solved (so far) it.

- and trying to change primer sizes - which means trying to change feeder bars - which means trying to reconnect that D@MN spring to the head of the pin without either losing the pin, or having the spring go pwaaaaannnggg off into the distance... And Saints preserve you if you get any powder grains into the feeder bar track, like oh, say if you miss on the primer stroke and don't seat a new primer when loading with fine powder, and it dumps-out the flash hole all over everywhere - ANY dirt in the well the feeder bar slides-in, it won't go all the way forward and won't feed a primer... I do all my large-primer stuff on the LnL, and all the small primer (pistol) on the Square Deal, or (rifle) one-by-one on the old cast-iron Rockchucker, primarily so I don't have to change primer sizes.

- and having a problem in the primer feed serious enough that you have to take it apart when the well is full - primers are going all over EVERYWHERE, and rolling under EVERYTHING you can't reach under, and you won't find them all... And when you reassemble it, if you tighten the screw that holds the tube just the tiniest bit too tight, it pinches the feeder bar and then, no primers. But at least on the LnL (and the Dillon), the primer tube is shielded so you don't have to go out and pay extra for one.

- and that cursed little screw-in spring plunger that seats the primers - if that mucks-up and doesn't retract, it locks-up the feeder bar and then on the up-stroke the feeder bar pulls the S-shaped stainless steel rod out of its socket and breaks the plastic holder at the top of the press. ALWAYS have spares of those plastic holders - and be careful when you reinstall a new one, they have to be positioned right. And keep the spring plungers clean and oiled - but remember, they push primers so don't over-oil them because the oil WILL seep-in and deactivate primers.

- and those d@mnable springs around the tool head that hold the cartridges in. Those springs were the main reason I bought the LnL; when doing rifle rounds (especially with rod powder - it will not feed through a powder-thrower) I assemble the cartridges in steps, using half the equipment in the shop, and only neck-size and deprime, seat the bullet and crimp on the LnL. The springs make it much easier to haul cartridges out and in at different stages during the loading cycle, to work on them somewhere else - but the springs delight in finding their way under the lip of bigger cases (.45 ACP in particular) going-into the first stage, and getting crushed - and then they look crummy.

- and the bayonet-mounting for the dies. This is a convenience feature, and makes the press cheaper and easier to reconfigure for other calibres - but the bayonet fittings (most particularly on the powder thrower) like to unlock themselves, and you gotta' watch for this. I've had one primer pop in the whole time I've been shooting, and it was when the powder thrower unlocked itself and was just going up-and-down instead of dispensing powder. So, it was the press's fault - but who knew the powder thrower would do that, and shoulda' been watching for it? Oh yeah; that'd be me. The sad thing is that I loaded five of them - the good thing is that, forewarned by the first one, I weighed all that batch and identified the other empties because they weighed ~3 gr less than the properly loaded ones. But the bayonet-mount isn't worth its trouble - go for a replaceable toolhead.

Bottom line on the LnL - it does everything you want a progressive to do, and does a lot of it quickly and well, and Hornady service is good, fast and unquestioning - but you've got to be reasonably handy with tools, know how to fix stuff and watch it closely - and regularly re-tighten the powder thrower in its bayonet mount, but only grab it by its base because the whole thing will twist, and it'll come apart. Doing it again, I'd likely pay the extra and go for a Dillon 650.
 
and the bayonet-mounting for the dies. This is a convenience feature, and makes the press cheaper and easier to reconfigure for other calibres - but the bayonet fittings (most particularly on the powder thrower) like to unlock themselves, and you gotta' watch for this. I've had one primer pop in the whole time I've been shooting, and it was when the powder thrower unlocked itself and was just going up-and-down instead of dispensing powder. So, it was the press's fault - but who knew the powder thrower would do that, and shoulda' been watching for it? Oh yeah; that'd be me. The sad thing is that I loaded five of them - the good thing is that, forewarned by the first one, I weighed all that batch and identified the other empties because they weighed ~3 gr less than the properly loaded ones. But the bayonet-mount isn't worth its trouble - go for a replaceable toolhead.

AGREED!!! The rest doesn't bother me the slightest, but the same thing happened to me. I made a mark with a sharpie on the lug and the press so I can see if they align in case I need to readjust, but this is really a patch. I was lucky enough to catch it after only 1 squib, mostly because I use the powder drop also to flare the case mouth, and since the mouth wasn't flared, the bullets fell in the next station.

Man I thought it was only mine doing that. I actually though about inserting a larger rubber bushing to make the thing tighter.
 
- and the dies don't reach down far enough; on my LnL I gave-up trying to reload 9mm because it wouldn't resize them well enough to fit in the chamber. I load 9mm on my Square Deal.

- and the S-shaped stainless steel rod that works the primer feed, likes to catch the feeder bar instead of sliding it nicely back-and-forth, whereupon it cocks itself to the side and doesn't feed a primer - this is especially bad after you loc-tite the pin on the feeder bar that the roller rides-on; because if you don't, that pin falls-out, goes straight to the floor and is never seen again; if you do, the loc-tite seeps-out while setting and binds the roller to the pin, and the roller never turns again. I put a cheap spring that sorta' fits over the top plastic holder for that rod, so it pushes the primer feeder bar down at the top of the stroke - this has solved (so far) it.

- and trying to change primer sizes - which means trying to change feeder bars - which means trying to reconnect that D@MN spring to the head of the pin without either losing the pin, or having the spring go pwaaaaannnggg off into the distance... And Saints preserve you if you get any powder grains into the feeder bar track, like oh, say if you miss on the primer stroke and don't seat a new primer when loading with fine powder, and it dumps-out the flash hole all over everywhere - ANY dirt in the well the feeder bar slides-in, it won't go all the way forward and won't feed a primer... I do all my large-primer stuff on the LnL, and all the small primer (pistol) on the Square Deal, or (rifle) one-by-one on the old cast-iron Rockchucker, primarily so I don't have to change primer sizes.

- and having a problem in the primer feed serious enough that you have to take it apart when the well is full - primers are going all over EVERYWHERE, and rolling under EVERYTHING you can't reach under, and you won't find them all... And when you reassemble it, if you tighten the screw that holds the tube just the tiniest bit too tight, it pinches the feeder bar and then, no primers. But at least on the LnL (and the Dillon), the primer tube is shielded so you don't have to go out and pay extra for one.

- and that cursed little screw-in spring plunger that seats the primers - if that mucks-up and doesn't retract, it locks-up the feeder bar and then on the up-stroke the feeder bar pulls the S-shaped stainless steel rod out of its socket and breaks the plastic holder at the top of the press. ALWAYS have spares of those plastic holders - and be careful when you reinstall a new one, they have to be positioned right. And keep the spring plungers clean and oiled - but remember, they push primers so don't over-oil them because the oil WILL seep-in and deactivate primers.

- and those d@mnable springs around the tool head that hold the cartridges in. Those springs were the main reason I bought the LnL; when doing rifle rounds (especially with rod powder - it will not feed through a powder-thrower) I assemble the cartridges in steps, using half the equipment in the shop, and only neck-size and deprime, seat the bullet and crimp on the LnL. The springs make it much easier to haul cartridges out and in at different stages during the loading cycle, to work on them somewhere else - but the springs delight in finding their way under the lip of bigger cases (.45 ACP in particular) going-into the first stage, and getting crushed - and then they look crummy.

- and the bayonet-mounting for the dies. This is a convenience feature, and makes the press cheaper and easier to reconfigure for other calibres - but the bayonet fittings (most particularly on the powder thrower) like to unlock themselves, and you gotta' watch for this. I've had one primer pop in the whole time I've been shooting, and it was when the powder thrower unlocked itself and was just going up-and-down instead of dispensing powder. So, it was the press's fault - but who knew the powder thrower would do that, and shoulda' been watching for it? Oh yeah; that'd be me. The sad thing is that I loaded five of them - the good thing is that, forewarned by the first one, I weighed all that batch and identified the other empties because they weighed ~3 gr less than the properly loaded ones. But the bayonet-mount isn't worth its trouble - go for a replaceable toolhead.

Bottom line on the LnL - it does everything you want a progressive to do, and does a lot of it quickly and well, and Hornady service is good, fast and unquestioning - but you've got to be reasonably handy with tools, know how to fix stuff and watch it closely - and regularly re-tighten the powder thrower in its bayonet mount, but only grab it by its base because the whole thing will twist, and it'll come apart. Doing it again, I'd likely pay the extra and go for a Dillon 650.

If you haven’t you might want to watch these videos as they will solve the issues you are having as well as contacting Hornady for the free shims they will send you to stop the powder measure from coming loose as you talked about in another post.
Watch the V1 to V6 videos on Hornady AP press by 76Highboy.

https://vimeo.com/76highboyreloading
 
Bloody lee single stage press ....when I go to prime the arm won’t go inside and causes a jam ...flips primers .....
Flipping junk
I’d have a co-ax by now if it wasn’t so expensive,,,,,,Cacca,!!!
 
not my favorite company, HOWEVER,

THEY HAVE THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE GAME OF RELOADING. If you have something that breaks, they will fix and replace without proof of purchase and won't say boo about how or why it happened. The absolute best in this department
 
It is my understanding that Square Deal dies only fit the Square deal press.

Correct - and the best way to change dies is to buy the whole tool plate, shell plate, dies &c and set it up to the new calibre, then do a complete swap everytime you change it. Caution though - when you change-out the shellplate there're two little detent balls under it, and they LOVE to get lost. Also, I do .38 and 9mm on mine - and use the same powder charge in both so the dispenser never needs adjusting. Sneaky li'l devil, ain't I? ;)
 
I only have a Hornady L&L Powder measure and Cam-Lock Case Trimmer.
My only Peeve is that the powder measure drum will bind up for no reason, forcing me to empty the powder, pull the metering plunger, and re-seat it, then it will function normally. Roughly once every time I switch powders. I do notice there's some metal wear around the slot where the metering plunger travels on the up and down stroke which I can only attribute to poor tolerances, but who knows....
Everything is fine other than that.
 
None ???

If somthing doesn't work for the task I'm trying to do , sell it and move on .

Not enough time in the day to get annoyed about small things that I can do somthing about
 
not my favorite company, HOWEVER,

THEY HAVE THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE GAME OF RELOADING. If you have something that breaks, they will fix and replace without proof of purchase and won't say boo about how or why it happened. The absolute best in this department

Actually it was like that before, I had a different experience yesterday when I spoke to Brad.

I needed some primer assembly parts because the always break. I have had this press for about 7 years and was showing a friend how to reload and let's just say he doesn't have the feel just yet. I ended up buying some spare primer assembly parts after I was lectured on how to stop when I feel resistance.

The primer feed is the weak part of this system, it still is a way better than the Lee 1000 I started with.

I have never had the opportunity to try a Dillion setup.
 
- and the dies don't reach down far enough; on my LnL I gave-up trying to reload 9mm because it wouldn't resize them well enough to fit in the chamber. I load 9mm on my Square Deal.

- and the S-shaped stainless steel rod that works the primer feed, likes to catch the feeder bar instead of sliding it nicely back-and-forth, whereupon it cocks itself to the side and doesn't feed a primer - this is especially bad after you loc-tite the pin on the feeder bar that the roller rides-on; because if you don't, that pin falls-out, goes straight to the floor and is never seen again; if you do, the loc-tite seeps-out while setting and binds the roller to the pin, and the roller never turns again. I put a cheap spring that sorta' fits over the top plastic holder for that rod, so it pushes the primer feeder bar down at the top of the stroke - this has solved (so far) it.

- and trying to change primer sizes - which means trying to change feeder bars - which means trying to reconnect that D@MN spring to the head of the pin without either losing the pin, or having the spring go pwaaaaannnggg off into the distance... And Saints preserve you if you get any powder grains into the feeder bar track, like oh, say if you miss on the primer stroke and don't seat a new primer when loading with fine powder, and it dumps-out the flash hole all over everywhere - ANY dirt in the well the feeder bar slides-in, it won't go all the way forward and won't feed a primer... I do all my large-primer stuff on the LnL, and all the small primer (pistol) on the Square Deal, or (rifle) one-by-one on the old cast-iron Rockchucker, primarily so I don't have to change primer sizes.

- and having a problem in the primer feed serious enough that you have to take it apart when the well is full - primers are going all over EVERYWHERE, and rolling under EVERYTHING you can't reach under, and you won't find them all... And when you reassemble it, if you tighten the screw that holds the tube just the tiniest bit too tight, it pinches the feeder bar and then, no primers. But at least on the LnL (and the Dillon), the primer tube is shielded so you don't have to go out and pay extra for one.

- and that cursed little screw-in spring plunger that seats the primers - if that mucks-up and doesn't retract, it locks-up the feeder bar and then on the up-stroke the feeder bar pulls the S-shaped stainless steel rod out of its socket and breaks the plastic holder at the top of the press. ALWAYS have spares of those plastic holders - and be careful when you reinstall a new one, they have to be positioned right. And keep the spring plungers clean and oiled - but remember, they push primers so don't over-oil them because the oil WILL seep-in and deactivate primers.

- and those d@mnable springs around the tool head that hold the cartridges in. Those springs were the main reason I bought the LnL; when doing rifle rounds (especially with rod powder - it will not feed through a powder-thrower) I assemble the cartridges in steps, using half the equipment in the shop, and only neck-size and deprime, seat the bullet and crimp on the LnL. The springs make it much easier to haul cartridges out and in at different stages during the loading cycle, to work on them somewhere else - but the springs delight in finding their way under the lip of bigger cases (.45 ACP in particular) going-into the first stage, and getting crushed - and then they look crummy.

- and the bayonet-mounting for the dies. This is a convenience feature, and makes the press cheaper and easier to reconfigure for other calibres - but the bayonet fittings (most particularly on the powder thrower) like to unlock themselves, and you gotta' watch for this. I've had one primer pop in the whole time I've been shooting, and it was when the powder thrower unlocked itself and was just going up-and-down instead of dispensing powder. So, it was the press's fault - but who knew the powder thrower would do that, and shoulda' been watching for it? Oh yeah; that'd be me. The sad thing is that I loaded five of them - the good thing is that, forewarned by the first one, I weighed all that batch and identified the other empties because they weighed ~3 gr less than the properly loaded ones. But the bayonet-mount isn't worth its trouble - go for a replaceable toolhead.

Bottom line on the LnL - it does everything you want a progressive to do, and does a lot of it quickly and well, and Hornady service is good, fast and unquestioning - but you've got to be reasonably handy with tools, know how to fix stuff and watch it closely - and regularly re-tighten the powder thrower in its bayonet mount, but only grab it by its base because the whole thing will twist, and it'll come apart. Doing it again, I'd likely pay the extra and go for a Dillon 650.


I've loaded over 20k of rounds on mine and the only thing I've replaced is the plastic piece that holds the guide rod for the primer feed with an aftermarket one that has a slot in it so the rod just pops out if something jams up preventing it from breaking.

The dies not reaching far enough down is a die issue most likely. I load 9mm on mine without issue.

The spring cartridge retainers are a wear item and will always need replacement eventually but they last a long time in my experience.

Spilled powder in the priming system is a universal problem no matter what press you buy. A can of compressed air for cleaning dust from a laptop is your friend and will prevent most of the issues.
Keep the press clean and it's pretty much fool proof.

The shaking and banging of the measure moving around is usually why the measure loosens.Wrap a bit of teflon tape around it before locking it in the press. It won't come loose again. It's 50cent fix. Personally I'm not fond of the powdermeasure linkage system and think it could be a much better design, it does work but in a rough fashion.

If you need to remove the primer tube when it's full loosen the screw and slide a business card under the tube to keep the primers under control and put the tube over a bowl or cup and let the primers fall in the cup or just hold the primer slide against the bottom of the tube and do the same.

I have a LNL,a Projector, a Pro 1000 and a Loadmaster and the LNL is miles ahead of the others for simplicity of operation and ease of use/adjustment. If you have trouble keeping one of these presses running progressives might not be for you and you may be better off to stick to a turret press.
 
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If you have trouble keeping one of these presses running progressives might not be for you and you may be better off to stick to a turret press.

- Or perhaps a Progressive that actually works as well as the large sum of money I sank in the LnL, suggests it should. I've had few problems indeed with my Square Deal; maybe I'll dispose of the LnL and get a Dillon 650. I'll keep you posted.
 
You really should have a look at the LNL tips and fixes Videos. Will save you a lot of agony and once it's set up properly you're like to sell off the Square Deal.
First thing is buy some standard size dies for you 9mm loads.
 
To help you setup.

Helps if you leave that black 8-32 screw that holds the primer tube cover a little loose or the primer slider tends to jam up.
Stoning the slider helps making it much smoother and try to keep powder off the primer slide raceway.
 
While I have a Lee shotshell and lee single press, I have a class hornady press and two Hornday progressive presses that for the most part, I load one caliber on. I tend to keep my smaller volume and load work up work to my aingle stage, but my mass volume stuff is all done on the hornady progressives. I have a case feeder on one and love it. like anything made by humans, I’m sure someone out there every now and then ends up with a lemon, regardless of the brand.
If you take care of things, operate it properly and know the “feel” of your press, you shouldn’t run in to too mny issues.

The customer service aspect of Hornady is top shelf, as others on here have already stated. I love their Get Loaded Program, offering free bullets with certain die and equipment purchases. I’ve been reloading tens of thousands of rounds every yr for the better part of a decade and I’ve never had any real issues that were manufacturer or design related. A few brain farts here and there, but Hornady presses have served me perfectly fine. I have no experience with Dillon or any other platform other than the little stuff Indo on the Lee presses, but I will keep buying Hornady and wouldn’t hesitate recommending their products to a fellow shooter.
 
Few pet peeves with my LnL progressive, I primarily load 9mm which seems to be the most problematic caliber (in my experience) on this press.

- The jam nut lock collars that Hornady sells doesn't actually work unless you tighten it against the quick change bushing with a retarded amount of force. I use the lee lock collars with the rubber O-ring instead.

- The lee dies I use for 9mm need be threaded into the quick change collars quite deep; sometimes to the point that I can only get 1/4 turn worth of thread on the jam nut.

- The PTX expander die likes to stick in the case mouth of 9mm cases, this causes the loading process to very jerky. I also load 38 spl and 45ACP on this press and I've never had this sort of issue.

- The primer tube is only held in place by gravity and the friction of primer tube support(the black cap thing at the top). This results in the primer tube randomly unseating and causing a primer jamWhen coupled with the jerkiness with the expander sticking in the case.

- The 9mm bullet feed die requires significant belling of the case mouth, much more than the PTX expander provides. The bullet feed die also likes to randomly stop feeding bullets despite repeated efforts to clean and adjust the die.

- If the press isn't briskly cycled on both the up and downstroke; the shellplate will not index correctly. This results in cases getting mangled against the dies and occasionally powder spillage.

- Both the shellplate bolt and the primer seating plunger like to loosen up after a few hundred rounds. I always use a bit of blue loctite on both when installing.
 
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