Zombie Apocalypse

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For all those saying 22LR does not have the necessary killing power, i ask you to please volunteer to be shot in the head with a 22LR round. Hey, if its not going to kill you, you shouldn't have an issue.
Okay, but first, anyone who does not agree that a staplegun to the kneecap does not have the necessary killing power, I ask you to please volunteer to let me fire a staplegun into your kneecap.

After all, if it's not going to kill you, you shouldn't have an issue.


I see this argument brought up on gun forums all the time and it is in my top 5 dumbest arguments list for obvious reasons.

"Anyone who doesn't think a ######X is an effective killer should offer to be shot with it." Why the hell would anybody allow themselves to be injured to prove that ######X will probably only injure them?

I can never decide if that's literally the dumbest argument on the internet, or just among the dumbest. But it is really up there.
 
True but I have yet too see a 223 round do this!
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Thanks for that!! :D

Ive been trying to decide on a PDW type rifle and thought about the VZ58 shorty, I think I need one.
 
The bolded section about sums it up. The underlined section is good evidence for something...but probably not what you think.


Finally, I would be very interested to see your source on the "take 5 people off the battlefield" comment...I did not realize there was anyone left who believed that. Nice to know that even in the age of easy online research and thoroughly documented, accredited studies, there are still ancient gun store rumours floating around.

clearly you didn't read the whole paragraph, guarantee the only reason why those people survived is because they received extraordinary medical attention within a certain time to save their life. So again, their survival can be attributed to modern medicine, the natural healing of the human body, and the will to live, all factors that a zombie does not have.

don't underline, retort.

ask any soldier or anyone trained in casualty evacuation. 3-5 men will be taken out of the fight to assist a wounded man. This totals 4-6 men, 1 wounded, 2-4 men carrying that wounded man, and 1 medic/TTC trained man. One man goes down, 4-6 men out of the fight.

I'll admit, the wording of that statement could be better, the round was designed to kill but unfortunately does not live up to its design very well. Countless documented and undocumented statements from our troops confirm its inability to put a man down.
 
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clearly you didn't read the whole paragraph, guarantee the only reason why those people survived is because they received extraordinary medical attention within a certain time to save their life. So again, their survival can be attributed to modern medicine, the natural healing of the human body, and the will to live, all factors that a zombie does not have.

don't underline, retort.

ask any soldier or anyone trained in casualty evacuation. 3-5 men will be taken out of the fight to assist a wounded man. This totals 4-6 men, 1 wounded, 2-4 men carrying that wounded man, and 1 medic/TTC trained man. One man goes down, 4-6 men out of the fight.

I'll admit, the wording of that statement could be better, the round was designed to kill but unfortunately does not live up to its design very well. Countless documented and undocumented statements from our troops confirm its inability to put a man down.
The problem you describe is primarily a matter of shot placement, and this conversation is predicated on the fact that shot placement is already correct.

Of the documented and undocumented statements you describe, what percentage of targets were shot in the head?
 
this post is worthy of the 2012 dumbest post contest...

not only should we keep the magazines riveted, but we should also carry a copy of our ATT and certs when the zombie hordes come...:rolleyes:

who said you had time to crack out the electric power tools and modify mags. In a SHTF scenario it is grab and go, what if your power is out, the tool malfunctions, battery is dead, zombies are pounding on your door because it happened over night while you were sleeping. With a 12gauge 7+1 or 14shot, or a 22lr with 25rd/50rd mag, i don't have to modify anything, i can grab and run, i'm saying run because I have shotgun belts loaded and ready to go, so i literally could grab my shotgun and a couple belts of buckshot and run. I don't have to #### around modifying a mag that may end up falling apart if you mess up taking it apart or does not feed properly afterwards. Have you ever taken apart or modified a AR15 mag so it can hold 30 rounds, how do you know it'll even work properly afterwards? In theory it should, but putting theory to practice is something else. Not something i'd want to try either if my life is on the line.
 
have you ever taken apart a pinned mag to clean it?

it's pretty hard to ####up a mag....if you are afraid to mess it up then you better stick to a shotgun!
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who said you had time to crack out the electric power tools and modify mags. In a SHTF scenario it is grab and go, what if your power is out, the tool malfunctions, battery is dead, zombies are pounding on your door because it happened over night while you were sleeping. With a 12gauge 7+1 or 14shot, or a 22lr with 25rd/50rd mag, i don't have to modify anything, i can grab and run, i'm saying run because I have shotgun belts loaded and ready to go, so i literally could grab my shotgun and a couple belts of buckshot and run. I don't have to #### around modifying a mag that may end up falling apart if you mess up taking it apart or does not feed properly afterwards. Have you ever taken apart or modified a AR15 mag so it can hold 30 rounds, how do you know it'll even work properly afterwards? In theory it should, but putting theory to practice is something else. Not something i'd want to try either if my life is on the line.
 
have you ever taken apart a pinned mag to clean it?

it's pretty hard to f**kup a mag....if you are afraid to mess it up then you better stick to a shotgun!
:rolleyes:


so you have experience converting pinned mags to 30rd mags? how do they work? How many times have you done it, any feed issues? just curious since you are a pro and all.

:ang3 :jerkit:
 
so you have experience converting pinned mags to 30rd mags? how do they work? How many times have you done it, any feed issues? just curious since you are a pro and all.

:ang3 :jerkit:

Firstly, its not rocket science man, its a rivet. I'm sure its not hard to hammer or drill it out which is why we all think the law is a joke and an insult to gun owners, especially since thugs in the city are running around with actual assault rifles.

Secondly, I really don't think the mods want this discussed here since its highly illegal to remove a rivet.
 
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so you have experience converting pinned mags to 30rd mags? how do they work? How many times have you done it, any feed issues? just curious since you are a pro and all.

:ang3 :jerkit:

Ummm... you do realize that the only thing gimping most mags in Canada is a rivet that prevents the follower from being depressed beyond a certain point.

Simply removing that rivet - while illegal - would probably take all of 3.4 seconds and has a 0.0001% chance of resulting in "feed issues".

Do you even know what an AR mag looks like?
 
who said you had time to crack out the electric power tools and modify mags. In a SHTF scenario it is grab and go, what if your power is out, the tool malfunctions, battery is dead, zombies are pounding on your door because it happened over night while you were sleeping. With a 12gauge 7+1 or 14shot, or a 22lr with 25rd/50rd mag, i don't have to modify anything, i can grab and run, i'm saying run because I have shotgun belts loaded and ready to go, so i literally could grab my shotgun and a couple belts of buckshot and run. I don't have to #### around modifying a mag that may end up falling apart if you mess up taking it apart or does not feed properly afterwards. Have you ever taken apart or modified a AR15 mag so it can hold 30 rounds, how do you know it'll even work properly afterwards? In theory it should, but putting theory to practice is something else. Not something i'd want to try either if my life is on the line.

um....ok..
 
who said you had time to crack out the electric power tools and modify mags. In a SHTF scenario it is grab and go, what if your power is out, the tool malfunctions, battery is dead, zombies are pounding on your door because it happened over night while you were sleeping. With a 12gauge 7+1 or 14shot, or a 22lr with 25rd/50rd mag, i don't have to modify anything, i can grab and run, i'm saying run because I have shotgun belts loaded and ready to go, so i literally could grab my shotgun and a couple belts of buckshot and run. I don't have to #### around modifying a mag that may end up falling apart if you mess up taking it apart or does not feed properly afterwards. Have you ever taken apart or modified a AR15 mag so it can hold 30 rounds, how do you know it'll even work properly afterwards? In theory it should, but putting theory to practice is something else. Not something i'd want to try either if my life is on the line.

at first i was going to suggest that this post also be forwarded to the CGN dumbest post of 2012, then i read this:

okay, as someone who wears a bulletproof vest for my job, I have always been curious as to what it feels like. BUT I HAVE NO DESIRE TO TEST IT!!!

this was when i realized that you are the famous "Gecko45" and are a god and leader among all mall ninjas...

i apologize for making fun of you, and i would like to thank you for your service...i feel safer going shopping knowing your lurking in the shadows, protecting us from evil in malls all over the country...

stay frosty
 
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