Zombie Apocalypse
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I can only hope that everyone saying irons is no more serious than the premise of this thread...
ColassalEntry
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What you got against IronsXD
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You're right. Irons are a bad idea. Now MAGPUL MBUS sights are the way to go!!! They won't rust over time!!!
Hokus Grey
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Irons, then Magpul backup sights behind those irons and a third set of irons made of chocolate, just in case you get low blood sugar and need a quick sugar boost.
Edited to add - Chocolate Irons will have either creamy middles, or cruchy nugat sights instead of tritium)
Edited to add - Chocolate Irons will have either creamy middles, or cruchy nugat sights instead of tritium)
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Koolaid flavoured chocolate?
Seriously?
TV-PressPass
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Night vision and an IR laser all the way. Maybe a light-laser combo too for hipshots
F22_RaptoR
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I'd go with a Trijicon Accupoint 1-4 power. Gives you a bit of reach, and it's got fiber optic illumination for daytime, and tritium for night time.
That way, you can still use the optic during the day even when tritium runs out 12+ years in the future, and you can use the sight (theoretically) forever during the day because the fiber optic illumination.
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You also get like 85% of the performance of a red-dot (due to the true 1x) and the ability for the extra reach.
That way, you can still use the optic during the day even when tritium runs out 12+ years in the future, and you can use the sight (theoretically) forever during the day because the fiber optic illumination.
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You also get like 85% of the performance of a red-dot (due to the true 1x) and the ability for the extra reach.
I want the greates optic of all time on my zombie killer...That gentlemen would be a Tasco Varmint 6x24x44mm Varmint with mildots and 1/8" target turrets. I'm going to pick zombies off at 1 mile. Oh, and m back up rifle will be a Stevens 200 in .308 Win with the same scope for operational consistency.
You guys are seriously suggesting iron sights for an AR 308?
If that's what you guys are about save over 4K and just get a CZ858. To even suggest iron sights as a primary on an AR10 type rifle is a waste. You aren't going to be shooting a lot of crap surplus through this thing. Even with a 16" barrel they are capable of 1" or less depending on the barrel.
Elcan Spectre quick change from 1 to 4x. ACOG etc, like the Brits have gone. Trijicon, S&B, you name it. With a barrel longer than 16" go with more magnification. Use flip up iron sights for backup.
If that's what you guys are about save over 4K and just get a CZ858. To even suggest iron sights as a primary on an AR10 type rifle is a waste. You aren't going to be shooting a lot of crap surplus through this thing. Even with a 16" barrel they are capable of 1" or less depending on the barrel.
Elcan Spectre quick change from 1 to 4x. ACOG etc, like the Brits have gone. Trijicon, S&B, you name it. With a barrel longer than 16" go with more magnification. Use flip up iron sights for backup.
the_klenzer
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Thats' what I was going to pick too.
urmmm... we are talking zombies here, they are not going to duck or try to find cover because you missed with the first shot, they will keep on coming towards you.
Apparently you have not seen any of the more recent training films.
In any case, the obvious answers are things like:
quality 1-4
maybe a spectre although I still hate the mount
aimpoint, although on a .308 you might as well get some magnification to take advantage of the extra range
My preference for this situation, which naturally I regard as highly probable, is as follows:
US Optics 2.5-10 or similar
offset T1
BUIS and hell, if it's for the zombie apocalypse, maybe a set of dueck offset irons too.
This way, you have LOTS of range. Lots of target ID ability. Great up close potential through the T1. Years of virtually indestructible performance from the micro. In the event your glass gets wrecked, you have the T1 so no instant panic. If your T1 gets wrecked you still have an offset close range option.
Irons as a primary sighting system are dead. They are slower during the day, WAY slower at night, harder to shoot on the move, harder to shoot moving targets with, require vastly more practise to retain similar skill levels...
The ONLY time I've ever had a situation come up where I found irons preferable was in heavy, heavy rain, at night. The rain was so bad the lens was constantly obscured and the intermittent light made it difficult to make anything out. On the other hand, shooting accurately in the dark at even 25m with irons is so hard that it wouldn't have been much better. The best option would have been tritiums, I guess, but I have never used them on a rifle and don't know if there are issues with them as well.
As it was I had to constantly wipe the lens with my thumb. I got about two or three seconds between the lens being completely obscured. But again I could not have done much better with just irons, either.
In any case, the obvious answers are things like:
quality 1-4
maybe a spectre although I still hate the mount
aimpoint, although on a .308 you might as well get some magnification to take advantage of the extra range
My preference for this situation, which naturally I regard as highly probable, is as follows:
US Optics 2.5-10 or similar
offset T1
BUIS and hell, if it's for the zombie apocalypse, maybe a set of dueck offset irons too.
This way, you have LOTS of range. Lots of target ID ability. Great up close potential through the T1. Years of virtually indestructible performance from the micro. In the event your glass gets wrecked, you have the T1 so no instant panic. If your T1 gets wrecked you still have an offset close range option.
Irons as a primary sighting system are dead. They are slower during the day, WAY slower at night, harder to shoot on the move, harder to shoot moving targets with, require vastly more practise to retain similar skill levels...
The ONLY time I've ever had a situation come up where I found irons preferable was in heavy, heavy rain, at night. The rain was so bad the lens was constantly obscured and the intermittent light made it difficult to make anything out. On the other hand, shooting accurately in the dark at even 25m with irons is so hard that it wouldn't have been much better. The best option would have been tritiums, I guess, but I have never used them on a rifle and don't know if there are issues with them as well.
As it was I had to constantly wipe the lens with my thumb. I got about two or three seconds between the lens being completely obscured. But again I could not have done much better with just irons, either.
No batteries and no magnification.
1) It's a zombie apocalypse and you won't have a logistics chain to supply you with batteries for your eotech or aimpoints.
2) You must only engage zombies with firearms at close range because the loud noise of a gunshot will only attract more. Remember, zombies have super-hearing. Thus, a magnified optic is out of the question because you should only be shooting zombies at close ranges.
Which leads me to suggest iron sights or a 1.5x ACOG.
1) It's a zombie apocalypse and you won't have a logistics chain to supply you with batteries for your eotech or aimpoints.
2) You must only engage zombies with firearms at close range because the loud noise of a gunshot will only attract more. Remember, zombies have super-hearing. Thus, a magnified optic is out of the question because you should only be shooting zombies at close ranges.
Which leads me to suggest iron sights or a 1.5x ACOG.
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