Zombie Apocalypse

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1) you will only need an aimpoint battery every few years so there is not much of a supply chain required

2)
A) there is no particular evidence for this;
B) you're eliminating options on the basis of a guess
C) you're ignoring the many advantages of various optics systems because the batteries will one day fail. But until that happens, which in the case of aimpoints may be YEARS, anyone who puts the optic on has a major advantage. And considering having an aimpoint does not obviate the possibility of having irons, there is ZERO disadvantage to having an optic. There are only advantages.
 
hbean said:
urmmm... we are talking zombies here, they are not going to duck or try to find cover because you missed with the first shot, they will keep on coming towards you. :rolleyes:
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Head shots remember :D . From all the movies I've watched head shots are the key.
 
Trijicon TA648MGO-308 with Trijicon RMR on top + KAC Irons a-la British Army L129A1 Sharpshooter Rifle style.
This setup:
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You're takin' this #### far too seriously.

misanthropist said:
Apparently you have not seen any of the more recent training films.

In any case, the obvious answers are things like:

quality 1-4
maybe a spectre although I still hate the mount
aimpoint, although on a .308 you might as well get some magnification to take advantage of the extra range

My preference for this situation, which naturally I regard as highly probable, is as follows:

US Optics 2.5-10 or similar
offset T1
BUIS and hell, if it's for the zombie apocalypse, maybe a set of dueck offset irons too.

This way, you have LOTS of range. Lots of target ID ability. Great up close potential through the T1. Years of virtually indestructible performance from the micro. In the event your glass gets wrecked, you have the T1 so no instant panic. If your T1 gets wrecked you still have an offset close range option.

Irons as a primary sighting system are dead. They are slower during the day, WAY slower at night, harder to shoot on the move, harder to shoot moving targets with, require vastly more practise to retain similar skill levels...

The ONLY time I've ever had a situation come up where I found irons preferable was in heavy, heavy rain, at night. The rain was so bad the lens was constantly obscured and the intermittent light made it difficult to make anything out. On the other hand, shooting accurately in the dark at even 25m with irons is so hard that it wouldn't have been much better. The best option would have been tritiums, I guess, but I have never used them on a rifle and don't know if there are issues with them as well.

As it was I had to constantly wipe the lens with my thumb. I got about two or three seconds between the lens being completely obscured. But again I could not have done much better with just irons, either.
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misanthropist said:
Apparently you have not seen any of the more recent training films.

In any case, the obvious answers are things like:

quality 1-4
maybe a spectre although I still hate the mount
aimpoint, although on a .308 you might as well get some magnification to take advantage of the extra range

My preference for this situation, which naturally I regard as highly probable, is as follows:

US Optics 2.5-10 or similar
offset T1
BUIS and hell, if it's for the zombie apocalypse, maybe a set of dueck offset irons too.

This way, you have LOTS of range. Lots of target ID ability. Great up close potential through the T1. Years of virtually indestructible performance from the micro. In the event your glass gets wrecked, you have the T1 so no instant panic. If your T1 gets wrecked you still have an offset close range option.

Irons as a primary sighting system are dead. They are slower during the day, WAY slower at night, harder to shoot on the move, harder to shoot moving targets with, require vastly more practise to retain similar skill levels...

The ONLY time I've ever had a situation come up where I found irons preferable was in heavy, heavy rain, at night. The rain was so bad the lens was constantly obscured and the intermittent light made it difficult to make anything out. On the other hand, shooting accurately in the dark at even 25m with irons is so hard that it wouldn't have been much better. The best option would have been tritiums, I guess, but I have never used them on a rifle and don't know if there are issues with them as well.

As it was I had to constantly wipe the lens with my thumb. I got about two or three seconds between the lens being completely obscured. But again I could not have done much better with just irons, either.
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Wow.. are you actually trying to provide a serious answer to this thread!?!
 
A .308 AR10 is a fine medium range rifle. Get a good medium range optic. Something in the 4-8x magnification range would be what I'd go for.

Yeah, .308 can be used up close for "zombies", and in that case an Aimpoint would probably be the optic of choice (plus a really nice muzzle brake to control muzzle rise). Though, in an actual zombie appocalypse, I think I would also want to have some irons at the ready.
 
yohann160 said:
No batteries and no magnification.

1) It's a zombie apocalypse and you won't have a logistics chain to supply you with batteries for your eotech or aimpoints.

2) You must only engage zombies with firearms at close range because the loud noise of a gunshot will only attract more. Remember, zombies have super-hearing. Thus, a magnified optic is out of the question because you should only be shooting zombies at close ranges.

Which leads me to suggest iron sights or a 1.5x ACOG.
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You do realize that your gun makes the same noise regardless of what you are shooting at or how far, right? :D
 
Dohunter: You missed the point completely. Engaging zombies that are 400m away is unsafe. Suppose there are none beside you. The noise you make as you take shots at far away zombies will only attract more and they will herd to your position and get the better of you. It's survival.

justinchow: Well if he is anything like me, he will have a stronghold with tens of thousands of rounds in it. But, being a zombie apocalypse, he will be constantly on the move to avoid being swarmed. He will have to carry everything he needs to survive. Weight will be the key factor if he is gonna make it. Consequently, an optic that requires no batteries to operate will give him that much more weight to spare for say.. one more mag or some more water or food.

However, if you're in a static defensive stronghold with everything you need to survive for 100 years... Then sure, get an aimpoint!
 
misanthropist said:
Irons as a primary sighting system are dead. They are slower during the day, WAY slower at night, harder to shoot on the move, harder to shoot moving targets with, require vastly more practise to retain similar skill levels...
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What!!?? All those years of training......wasted!!!ovrec

Hmm....maybe it is finally time to get with it and buy an Aimpoint:cool:
 
Zombie????????????

Well I hesitate to post here due to the fictional nature of this thread, I just could not help myself. So here goes nothing. The apocolypse would happen when I am on the range with a C-9 and suddenly I would receive a Hollywood belt of 5.56mm that will never run out. HAHA. Oh yeah and iron sights for me. LOL
 
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So just to clarify and avoid any confusion are we talking "undead Zombie" or "Viral Zombie" apocalypse? :p
 
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