HK P7 Order -SFRC

mildcustom2 said:
Distributor buys a supposed stash of guns made in the 1980's. Wouldn't you want a smith to inspect each one first?
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Parts could have been robbed or even damaged. Still for an order this small and only a few minutes per gun it shouldn't take that long... I don't think a test firing is required or desire able if nib as it would no longer be new...
 
elektrobug said:
The reason for the prohibited FRT initially was because RCMP went by manufacturer specs of 105mm. When measured to Canadian standard (to the back of the breech) all P7 measure to around 106.6mm. H&K manufacturing tolerances are to a fraction of a millimetre so they are all the same, and I have never seen one that was actually prohibited.

Those of you that know me, know that the P7 is my favorite gun and that I have some knowledge of the platform. I am a P7 armorer and I would like offer my time gratis for the good of the community (I am not on the waiting list). A P7 can be function checked and visually inspected in minutes, if not less. I am driving distance to the distributor, and would be glad to drive down, spend the day and inspect these pistols. So they will no be hesitant, I will come with police background clearance in hand and firearm business employment references.

PS: crunchiespg you are confusing the P7 with P9s. The P9s is the one with the roller delayed blow back like the MP5.
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Nope not confused. The p7 is also a delayed blowback design, but an even simpler design. My point was the roller lock delayed blowback is more complex, yet can still be stripped and inspected in minutes, so the simpler p7 should not be taking this long. As you said the p7 can be function checked in seconds.
 
Home3 said:
So all those WWII TT-33's sold in Canada recently, were stripped and inspected one-by-one by a gunsmith before being sold? You think?
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Given the fact I hve dealt directly with a Distributor on SKS's etc etc I can tell you first hand they go through every single one. Check for condition, check if it's new or used and check to see if there's anything desirable that can put it aside to sell for more money. You can find it hard to believe all you want but I know it's done.
 
silverfoxdj said:
Just does not sound reasonable..the whole thing
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Totally agree. None of it adds up. The retailer should probably be looking into their legal options regarding any deposit or payments made for goods not received.

Whatever it is, the real story is not that some gunsmith needs months and months to check over the pistols for condition/function/safety. That is just laughable. A couple of weeks... maybe. A month, maybe they are really busy and not very considerate to their wholesale customers. 4, 5, 6 months? Somebody is being fed a story.
 
Whatever is going on, ( and I suspect the govn't) I am sure SFRC is trying to work through it, as most of you know, anything regarding firearms takes longer that expected, my formula is :the promised date + 2 years - whatever you roll on a pair of dice: !! Really works well for me, 90% of the time 5 times out of 10!
The other alternative for them is to come on here and blame whoever is holding things up, thereby pi$$ing off either the Feds/RCMP or the supplier, either of which will usually slow things down even more or scuttle the deal altogether! So I think keeping us in the dark is his best option till there is something concrete to bring us!
No doubt there is some kind of sh!t going down, but we just have to hang on, keep our powder dry and credit cards in the holster,, safety off!! ;0)
 
ghostie said:
Totally agree. None of it adds up. The retailer should probably be looking into their legal options regarding any deposit or payments made for goods not received.

Whatever it is, the real story is not that some gunsmith needs months and months to check over the pistols for condition/function/safety. That is just laughable. A couple of weeks... maybe. A month, maybe they are really busy and not very considerate to their wholesale customers. 4, 5, 6 months? Somebody is being fed a story.
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No deposits were given, just a an agreement for good to be delivered.
 
I don't know why firearms stores don't wait until they actually have the goods ready for sale due to the fact deliveries usually go much longer than mentioned or don't show up at all. This is very frustrating for consumers.
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
I don't know why firearms stores don't wait until they actually have the goods ready for sale due to the fact deliveries usually go much longer than mentioned or don't show up at all. This is very frustrating for consumers.
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probably no simple answer, maybe a bit of hype, but moreso the stores themselves are excited about getting some rare firearms or equipment/ ammo! Also it give cgner's time to gather the cash required to purchase some of this gear thereby giving more people a shot ( pardon the pun) at owning one1 Sometimes they put it out so as to guage the interest in certain gear that may come available but if not many folks want it then they do not go through with the purchase. Keeping expensive product in the warehouse costs money in interest and ties up money for other projects!
 
bobdbldr said:
probably no simple answer, maybe a bit of hype, but moreso the stores themselves are excited about getting some rare firearms or equipment/ ammo! Also it give cgner's time to gather the cash required to purchase some of this gear thereby giving more people a shot ( pardon the pun) at owning one1 Sometimes they put it out so as to guage the interest in certain gear that may come available but if not many folks want it then they do not go through with the purchase. Keeping expensive product in the warehouse costs money in interest and ties up money for other projects!
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100% right on all points!
your hired :)
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
I don't know why firearms stores don't wait until they actually have the goods ready for sale due to the fact deliveries usually go much longer than mentioned or don't show up at all. This is very frustrating for consumers.
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Distributors let their dealers know what products are coming up.
Dealers pre-order product based on either an educated guess at what their customers will want, or feedback.

Based on pre-bookings, distributors order from the manufacturers.
Manufacturers usually offer guidance on shipping timelines.

Feces happen.
 
I wonder if these are ever coming.
But maybe not a bad thing. I'm considering selling one of my p7m8 pistols. But it won't be as cheap as these ones as it's a mint example.
 
There is a nice P7M8 on EE now. Though no doubt many will consider it on the steep side, it is apparently unfired and has the wood Nill grips.
 
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