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Did that just slip past you or what?, this is just more proof against the anti's with their complete central storage retardation.
Anyway I'm sorry to hear that guys, I hope they catch the bastards.
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Did that just slip past you or what?, this is just more proof against the anti's with their complete central storage retardation.
Anyway I'm sorry to hear that guys, I hope they catch the bastards.
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May I also suggest that you test all critical security procedures/systems monthly.
I do this without fail, every month, no excuses. I want to know if my security system is working as expected. Yes, I do break glass on purpose to test my glass break, smoke my smoke detector, test all door/window contacts, test all motion detectors. If you want to do them all in one day it's a good idea to call the security company ahead of time and they can provide a report of all triggers in a defined time range. I even cut power to make sure the security system battery backup is working.
I also like to test them at random (monthly) to make sure they are following the call list and demanding the pre-defined safe word/password. I time them to make sure they are within the contracted SLA. Never more then 5 minutes for the first call, which determines if they alert authorities. Glass break, smoke detector, and water detection are all centrally monitored along with contacts/motion.
All of this for a residence. I would expect much more from a location with exponentially more firearms and liability. It might just be me, but I get a kick out of designing and testing these systems.
My cameras are wireless, protected by a firewall, and email me instantly on my iphone when a motion is triggered. I know when my kids are home, when my wife walks the dog and when my mom visits to fold laundry (she loves folding laundry lol). I know before the security companies know because the systems are mutually exclusive.
Last tip, always be skeptical of sales pitches. Prove your systems work by testing.
I do this without fail, every month, no excuses. I want to know if my security system is working as expected. Yes, I do break glass on purpose to test my glass break, smoke my smoke detector, test all door/window contacts, test all motion detectors. If you want to do them all in one day it's a good idea to call the security company ahead of time and they can provide a report of all triggers in a defined time range. I even cut power to make sure the security system battery backup is working.
I also like to test them at random (monthly) to make sure they are following the call list and demanding the pre-defined safe word/password. I time them to make sure they are within the contracted SLA. Never more then 5 minutes for the first call, which determines if they alert authorities. Glass break, smoke detector, and water detection are all centrally monitored along with contacts/motion.
All of this for a residence. I would expect much more from a location with exponentially more firearms and liability. It might just be me, but I get a kick out of designing and testing these systems.
My cameras are wireless, protected by a firewall, and email me instantly on my iphone when a motion is triggered. I know when my kids are home, when my wife walks the dog and when my mom visits to fold laundry (she loves folding laundry lol). I know before the security companies know because the systems are mutually exclusive.
Last tip, always be skeptical of sales pitches. Prove your systems work by testing.
This sounds suspiciously like an "inside" job (not necessarily TSE staff, but someone with knowledge of the security measures in place / being put in place).
Is the security company that was supposed to be doing the patrols the same as the one that runs the alarm?
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Any feasibility of having a handgun display apparatus for inside the glass display case where at the end of the night, you can move the entire apparatus with all the display guns on it into the safe (so you don't have to move each individual gun one-by-one into the safe and risk nicks scratches etc..)?
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Just wondering how many time TSE has been broken into. I've lost count. How many guns is that now? Legally J.R did everything right. However people do have a point. Guns IMO should be in a vault at night. Not in a glass case. If someone can break into a gun store with a bat and a hoodie, Im sorry but thats just sad. Ontop of that, the HD video is a joke. Looks like Mcdonalds drive-thru video.
I really do like shopping at TSE. A thousand times more than CSC. I think they are arrogant and only give you the time of day once they have your money and only if it keeps coming! I just hope these damages dont get transfered to us customers.
Just my 2 cents, but what do I know, I dont own and run a gun store.
I really do like shopping at TSE. A thousand times more than CSC. I think they are arrogant and only give you the time of day once they have your money and only if it keeps coming! I just hope these damages dont get transfered to us customers.
Just my 2 cents, but what do I know, I dont own and run a gun store.
I have a reasonable alternative that is incredibly cost efficient. Remove cabinets from the floor, and install wheels on your display cabinets. At the end of the business day wheel your cabinets into the vault. It will save all the dings on the pistols, and make them much more difficult to steal.
My consulting fee is a free kimber desert warrior thank you.
One store I go into has large safes along the walls with a piece of glass keeping people from touching them while the store is open, along with shelves and lighting, and they just close the doors on the safes when they close for the day. its not the largest store but they have 4 or 5 huge ones.
But then again you cant put ALL the guns you have in safes so you will always have some out on the floor, so if the pistols arnt handy, then those will be next. have to stop them at the entry to the store, not while they are inside.
Italian sporting goods has a nice setup, with concrete pylons surrounding the storefront, along with double doors and reinforced windows with steel bars. they have a vault door in the back I believe as well.
But then again you cant put ALL the guns you have in safes so you will always have some out on the floor, so if the pistols arnt handy, then those will be next. have to stop them at the entry to the store, not while they are inside.
Italian sporting goods has a nice setup, with concrete pylons surrounding the storefront, along with double doors and reinforced windows with steel bars. they have a vault door in the back I believe as well.
I've been to a store that does that. It looks like they toss them all into a burlap sack and toss them down the basement stairs for the night.
Sorry to hear about the robbery. I know the feeling and the anger that follows a bad security situation. We had gear stolen from a set when a guard had a nap in his car. That foot patrol every half hour turned into a long slumber in between movies. The fortunate part in our case just meant re running cable and getting drivers to pick up new gear. We were only shooting a tv show and all was well. 20 pistols is a different league. All the best and good luck dealing with those involved.
Sorry JR to hear this.
Now we all get to play CSI CGN.
I like the idea of putting them in a vault / safe with pistol holders that are rubber coated or foam lined to prevent bumps or skip every 2nd place to give more room between pistols.
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I like this thought.Sounds like who ever did it was well acquainted with your layered system ?
Now we all get to play CSI CGN.
I like the idea of putting them in a vault / safe with pistol holders that are rubber coated or foam lined to prevent bumps or skip every 2nd place to give more room between pistols.
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Yep , but it will look like a cell.
Armor display cases, Bars if you will on all sides and locked on hinged lid that you can unlock and filp to the front for display.
Set up the locks in shielded compartments designed to make bolt cutters useless (kind of like they do with oilfield gates.)
make sure the setup is under as well and bolted to the floor from inside the display.
This might not stop a thief that wants in real bad.
But it will make him work for it
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I hope this wasn't directed at me. I'm simply pointing out the obvious and providing advice to avoid being victimized again.
If your valuables were stolen from your car would you continue the same habits/routine of leaving them visible and accessible? I wouldn't, even if the law and/or insurance company didn't mandate it.
As a security major this is an excellent opportunity for a TRA (threat risk assessement) project. That's how my mind works unfortunately. I apologize if it offends the easily offended.
Sry to hear JR
Why not get plexi glass boxes made and wrap every gun in a bag similar to the one's given out with crown royal if they still do that.
One slot one gun in crown royal bag, how can they get nicks from that? Then put in Safe!
Best of luck with the Cops finding the shi_ heads.
Why not get plexi glass boxes made and wrap every gun in a bag similar to the one's given out with crown royal if they still do that.
One slot one gun in crown royal bag, how can they get nicks from that? Then put in Safe!
Best of luck with the Cops finding the shi_ heads.
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My comment was not directed at anyone, but there is a trend on CGN where people post blame regardless of if the op displayed due diligence.
My point is that no matter how prepared you are, or how great your security is, you can be the victim of a crime.
We as private owners have the ability to minimize our exposure and keep our guns out of sight. The only people that know we have guns in our homes are friends, family, and anyone we choose to share that information with. This is our best defence.
A gun store has a big bullseye for thieves... They must spend large amounts of money to meet federal regulations, and ensure that they both deter theft, and have a protocol in place to deal with the eventuality of a break in.
Wow. Everyone complains on this site about how expensive guns are.
Imagine what the effect on the price would be if you had to buy depleted uranium shielded cabinets to display them in?
The guns were stored legally. Deal with it.
Imagine what the effect on the price would be if you had to buy depleted uranium shielded cabinets to display them in?
The guns were stored legally. Deal with it.
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