Smokin deals on Grand Power 9mm's/.22's and range reports

Right on , It's nice to have a rep that hangs out here on CGN!
Hopefully you can pass along suggestions to Trigger Wholesale in regards to bringing in extra .22lr springs in all the different configurations....
Happy shooting!
 
A comment about the barrel on my Grand Power. I received a new PC929 a couple of weeks ago. The inside of the barrel looks not quite as good as a 100 year old sewer pipe. I stuck the bore scope down my Grand Power, which was just sitting there minding it's own business and happened to be clean. The barrel is an absolute jewel when compared to the new S&W or not. Where can one get a large mag release for a MK6? Sorry if this does not quite fit in, I admit to not reading from the start.
 
One of my biggest concerns when buying a boutique type pistol is parts and mag availability. If my Glock or Beretta or S&W blows a spring or part I'm back up and running in no time. Hope trigger has a good supply of parts coming in as well
 
Hitzy said:
One of my biggest concerns when buying a boutique type pistol is parts and mag availability. If my Glock or Beretta or S&W blows a spring or part I'm back up and running in no time. Hope trigger has a good supply of parts coming in as well
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I'd agree with that. One of the jobs a good distributor needs to do well is to ensure parts and accessories availability.
 
Yes, as we are a vocal bunch it would be bad for the brand for the recent purchasers to be stuck in no-man's land
between old distributor/warranty support and new distributor/warranty support. I trust that's sorted.
 
Just got my registration certificates in, so will be testing this out early next week. Based on experience with my other .22's I'm guessing the small diameter spring is for normal .22 ammo, and the larger diameter spring (I measured it as 3lbs stronger) is for hotter ammo - like maybe mini-mags or velocitors.

sailor723 said:
I'm still confused about this spare spring coming with the .22 thing. How do you know which spring is for what type of ammo?
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VanMan said:
Just got my registration certificates in, so will be testing this out early next week. Based on experience with my other .22's I'm guessing the small diameter spring is for normal .22 ammo, and the larger diameter spring (I measured it as 3lbs stronger) is for hotter ammo - like maybe mini-mags or velocitors.
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I'm curious, what were the specific spring rate numbers you measured for both springs?

If you have ammo feeding issues, try only loading a max of maybe 7 rounds in the mag and see if your problems go away. I'm also curious how easy you'll find it to load round #10 in your mags.
 
I used the setup I have for measuring my 1911 springs, the the actual measurement of each spring may not be what the factory rating is. I was more interested in the difference between the two. The K22 small dia spring was 5lbs, and the large dia spring was 8lbs.
If anyone is interested, for the X-Calibur springs, I measured the installed spring @ 10.5lbs, the spare round wire spring @ 12.1 lbs, and the spare red spring @ 13.5lbs - so it looks like there is a ~1.5lb step up for each spring.

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jimbo14 said:
I'm curious, what were the specific spring rate numbers you measured for both springs?

If you have ammo feeding issues, try only loading a max of maybe 7 rounds in the mag and see if your problems go away. I'm also curious how easy you'll find it to load round #10 in your mags.
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MY KS22 INITIAL RANGE REPORT:

Ok gents go easy as this is my first real contribution to this thread. I will try to keep it short.

Temperature 2c

I ran a total of four types of ammo over 260 rds. They were CCI mm, Fed Match, old Rem 40g and some old Win SupX gold bullet. My initial 3 mags of each produced the following results:

FED 3 FTLoad
WIN 0 FTL
CCI 4 FTL
REM 2FTL + 2FTF

After running that test I ran another 12 mags with the three diff mags I have using the four diff ammos and I am very pleased to say that out of the 120rds fired only two were FTL and that was CCI in "Mag 3"

There appeared to be good consistency between the mags and the gun performed better on the second half of the rds fired. I did notice that occasionally the slide stopped just short of full travel so maybe installing the stronger spring would help that?? Also I found that the first rd to be fired in the mag would sometimes be too low of an angle so how I sort of fixed that was to raise the bullet end up and then tap the mag against the wood table which seemed to get the correct angle of all the following rds in the mag. Maybe I am out to lunch on that but it seemed to help with the initial first round chambering

I found the gun to be shooting left for sure and a tad low. Next trip I will adjust the rear site accordingly and install the larger spring. From 25 feet I was achieving groups that I was happy with and was able to blow out a 1" bullseye after 3 mags. (I AM NO EXPERT)

I would say the ammo that felt hottest was the Fed followed by the CCI

I know there was one fella on here at his wits end with the fussiness of his GP 22 but so far I am pleasantly surprised with the performance on a cold day and it seems it is only getting better. I did not field strip it or lubricate before the range visit.

That's it that's all
 
tracifan68 said:
MY KS22 INITIAL RANGE REPORT:

I did not field strip it or lubricate before the range visit.

That's it that's all
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This seems to be a common theme here on CGN and is bad practice.
Packing oil is laid on thick and is generally not a great lube, so you are accelerating wear on a brand new gun.
Field strip, clean and lube let's you inspect the gun for any defects or missing parts.
It also let's you get familiar with take down, so in the event something happens like the gun locks up, or you get a live round stuck in the chamber you are able to clear it safely without putting other shooters or yourself at risk.
 
Hitzy said:
This seems to be a common theme here on CGN and is bad practice.
Packing oil is laid on thick and is generally not a great lube, so you are accelerating wear on a brand new gun.
Field strip, clean and lube let's you inspect the gun for any defects or missing parts.
It also let's you get familiar with take down, so in the event something happens like the gun locks up, or you get a live round stuck in the chamber you are able to clear it safely without putting other shooters or yourself at risk.
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The gun has lubrication on it from the factory, that much I did check. All good points though.
 
Canuck223 said:
Our packing lube is for long term storage. We never know if the gun will be handled days or months down the road, and nobody wants rust.

A good wipe down prior to shooting is wise, but glad you had fun with it as-is.
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I did have fun with it for sure and I will take your advice on the maintenance
 
It should only get better as it breaks in a bit so I'd say you are off to a good start!
I didn't find mine to heavy with preservative so I'm not shocked it ran right out of the box.
 
K22 X-Trim Ammo Test

Got a chance to try out my K22 X-trim today as well.

Conditions
- K22-Xtrim cleaned and lubed, small diameter recoil spring installed
- tested in an out door range @ ~2 degrees Celsius
- ran through 5 * 10 round mags of each ammo

Results
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So definitely looks like it's going to need high velocity ammo for now, at least until it breaks in. The lower velocity bulk stuff like Winchester Wildcat and American Eagle 40gr RN didn't have enough recoil to push the slide back far enough to eject the fired casing. Not really surprising, I've only had this cheap bulk stuff work well in a couple of my .22's.

Had a surprising high number of FTF's, but easy to squeeze off another strike in double action. All FTF's went off ok after the 2nd strike. Looking at the fired casings - the primer strike is not as deep as my other .22's. Also, as tracifan68 mentioned, I did notice that occasionally the slide did not fully return to battery (usually the 1st round of a mag). This may have increased the number of FTF's. Not going to bother putting in the heavier recoil spring though as most likely it won't cycle even with high velocity ammo. Will just keep my eye on this - can just push the slide into battery when I notice it.

Overall pretty happy with my K22 X-Trim. Got it for some cheap practice for my X-Calibur as it fits my existing holster and mag holders. Will break it in with a case of Minimags and retest again.
 
VanMan said:
Got a chance to try out my K22 X-trim today as well.

Conditions
- K22-Xtrim cleaned and lubed, small diameter recoil spring installed
- tested in an out door range @ ~2 degrees Celsius
- ran through 5 * 10 round mags of each ammo

Results
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So definitely looks like it's going to need high velocity ammo for now, at least until it breaks in. The lower velocity bulk stuff like Winchester Wildcat and American Eagle 40gr RN didn't have enough recoil to push the slide back far enough to eject the fired casing. Not really surprising, I've only had this cheap bulk stuff work well in a couple of my .22's.

Had a surprising high number of FTF's, but easy to squeeze off another strike in double action. All FTF's went off ok after the 2nd strike. Looking at the fired casings - the primer strike is not as deep as my other .22's. Also, as tracifan68 mentioned, I did notice that occasionally the slide did not fully return to battery (usually the 1st round of a mag). This may have increased the number of FTF's. Not going to bother putting in the heavier recoil spring though as most likely it won't cycle even with high velocity ammo. Will just keep my eye on this - can just push the slide into battery when I notice it.



Overall pretty happy with my K22 X-Trim. Got it for some cheap practice for my X-Calibur as it fits my existing holster and mag holders. Will break it in with a case of Minimags and retest again.
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Thx for the report Vanman.....a much more professional effort than mine!
 
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