Best Bedside Defense Shotgun

2bad4u2 said:
If you think you need to defend yourself by having an easily accessible shotgun in your bedroom, perhaps it's time to move to a new neighborhood? You'll feel safer and it'll cost you less in the long run. Constantly worrying about the what "if's" will drive you batsheet crazy.
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I love this response... it comes up all the time in these threads.. it assumes that everyone "can" move, It assumes that everyone's situation is the same....

I live in what is now a bad area, but wasn't always, we're moving because of several murders in the immediate area... some of them random and not targeted. I can move, I have the means to renovate my place and hope someone doesn't mind the neighborhood, I can even take a loss if I have to.... Some of my neighbors can't, they'd take the loss on their homes, some of them rent and can't afford to pay more in a safer neighborhood.... some of them don't feel they should have to move and the police should protect them

So it's pretty arrogant to just say move if you don't say feel safe...

FYI I don't know about the OP but I don't worry all day long about this, but I do keep firearms close by at night (safely and legally stored) and I sleep better
 
None of the posts regarding the legalities of what you think you can do are anti-firearm in the least. More of a CYA thing for YOU. You will not only be charged, you will lose your PAL/RPAL and ALL your firearms and it'll cost you in 6 figures for a lawyer. None of this is anti-firearm ownership.
Legalities aside, there very few if any box mag fed shotguns in Canada, I think. There used to be a conversion for for Rem 870's that used a modified M-14 mag though. This'd be 30ish years ago.
 
Funny how some people think that having a plan with a firearm when someone is breaking into your house is being paranoid or means you should have to move

I guess those smoke detectors I have and fire escape plan I teach the family makes me paranoid about fire too

Heaven forbid I bought a C02 detector too, I must be bat#### crazy

My poor wife and kids, having someone looking out for them



OP, I know you don't like tube fed but you said your plan is to stay in your bedroom, which is wise... then having a side saddle with 4-6 rounds in it will suffice, you can store it locked like that and use a speed lock or biometric as I mentioned before... you should have plenty of time to load a few rounds which is really all you need

Mosssberg 500 is what I have
 
Corry said:
Shotguns are one of the best HD guns IMHO... but..........

consider your environment and home when choosing your load. Slugs and buckshot while easily dispatching bad guys at 3 am in the morning also have massive potential to penetrate drywall and harm the very ones you want to protect.

Bird shot on the other hand seldom penetrates drywall but is fairly effective in close quarter combat

As for storing your shotgun... loaded is not good or legal however having rounds in your sidesaddle is. Speed locks on cabinets such as those made by Master are fast as are biometric safes.
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This will stir up $h!t but...

Bird is generally a bad idea, for LOTS of reasons. Suffice to say, if you NEED to shoot, you need stop a threat RIGHT GODDAMN NOW and bird is NOT what you want in your gun. Buck is what you want, with slugs in reserve. That said, it's a very personal choice.

The thinking man (or woman) chooses the delivery system then takes it out and patterns the gun with as many loads as possible. Then buys their choice in quantity and stores them for a rainy day. When you run out, or they stop making them, do it again.
 
If you want a load that has limited penetration in building materials, but is still terminally effective at short range, then you want #4 buckshot.

I've done a lot of media testing and #4 buck is weaksauce after passing through anything halfway substantial, if it does at all.
 
OP, as someone else above posted, a few extra seconds to load a gun in the very remote chance that it's needed shouldn't be a problem......

For the vast majority of us a firearm will never be needed to defend our homes, but if you have firearms why not have a plan just in case?
It would really suck to actually need a firearm quickly and find yourselves fumbling and unable to find your tools.
 
jparent said:
This will stir up $h!t but...

Bird is generally a bad idea, for LOTS of reasons. Suffice to say, if you NEED to shoot, you need stop a threat RIGHT GODDAMN NOW and bird is NOT what you want in your gun. Buck is what you want, with slugs in reserve. That said, it's a very personal choice.

The thinking man (or woman) chooses the delivery system then takes it out and patterns the gun with as many loads as possible. Then buys their choice in quantity and stores them for a rainy day. When you run out, or they stop making them, do it again.
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You might want to watch this, its a common misconception that bird shot won't stop someone..... remember bird shot is concentrated at short range

 
Funny that he says there is no spread difference between buck and bird but looking at the target the birds shot spread twice the distance of the buck..... pointing at the wad hole and then calling that the cluster doesn't make the spread less.

For the record I can see the use of birdshot in some cases but I also understand the valid points the buckshot crowd make.
 
Can-down said:
Funny that he says there is no spread difference between buck and bird but looking at the target the birds shot spread twice the distance of the buck..... pointing at the wad hole and then calling that the cluster doesn't make the spread less.

For the record I can see the use of birdshot in some cases but I also understand the valid points the buckshot crowd make.
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Well it sure did a number or the ribs and pork shoulder right... but at the same time if you miss its not going to likely kill the person across the hall like buck or a slug can do
 
Corry said:
Well it sure did a number or the ribs and pork shoulder right... but at the same time if you miss its not going to likely kill the person across the hall like buck or a slug can do
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I wouldn't want to be shot with birdshot.
I just don't see his need to gloss over details in his experiment and then make firm assumptions for others based on his choice.
A shot at the other side of the meat with a load of buck seems like a no brainer.... in the interest of science.
 
Can-down said:
I wouldn't want to be shot with birdshot.
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I wouldn't want to be either. I was shooting an old dining table on the farm and the birdshot was punching about 4" holes through it at 15ft, with an 18.5" cylinder bore barrel. That's about the average 'room' distance.
 
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