The Ultimate North American Hunting Round?
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Bigfoot 870
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Fans of the 30-06 should consider that the 375 Ruger offers similar trajectory but with a much larger bullet. It's truly North Americas Ultimate cartridge.
The obsolete H&H will do in a pinch, but it's not North American.
This sounds like deja vu, all over again
This sounds like deja vu, all over again
it took longer than in some previous threads ....
Well I'm really going to throw a screw into Sheep's argument about polar bear hunting................
But then I have been accused of a minor type of insanity, not treatable and usually self destructive given enough time.
What's the preferred bow stalk on a polar bear? Do you creep behind the ice chunks and slither on your belly to close the distance? or do you make like a seal and let the bear come to you?
Ardent
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Fair enough, you recognise it and make the right choice in that light. I've spent too long rattling teeth with .375 and up to .505 now this recent past, and the .300 is mild and comfortable for my shoulder. Simply a case of why take a less flat trajectory and deliver less energy when the two are interchangeable for me personally recoil wise.
Best way to reset your recoil perception is to shoot something bigger for awhile. Not everyone has a big bore to shoot; but most have a 3" 12 around. Crank a box or two of hot goose loads or slugs through that then all of a sudden a .300 is a powder-puff. When a shooter proves that a .458 Lott (random example) isn't going to kill him, knock him down with blood running out of his ears, tear his arm off or even make a mark then a .300 or .338 seems like a fun little plinker. And you know something? They are.
I wish you guys would clam up about the reality of recoil! Personally, I enjoy the frequent appearance of medium- and large-bore rifles on the used gun market, usually in mint condition and with a box of factory loads containing 2 or 3 empty brass and the rest still loaded factory-fresh. The worst...and best...thing about recoil is the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth about how horrific it is in this gun or that gun, because it encourages the sale of some lovely rifles. When you fire a gun and "know" that it's going to hurt...it probably will.
Fortunately, it'll never end. For every guy that shoots a big gun, there are ten who never have, and never will, but still don't hesitate to tell the world how bad the recoil is. And apparently, a "big" gun is any gun that is even slightly larger or more powerful than the one they actually own.
Fortunately, it'll never end. For every guy that shoots a big gun, there are ten who never have, and never will, but still don't hesitate to tell the world how bad the recoil is. And apparently, a "big" gun is any gun that is even slightly larger or more powerful than the one they actually own.
Just once I'd like to find one of those cheap pristine magnums with two shots through them for sale. I think they all got bought up by the guy who found the 200 mpg carburetor accidently installed on his new car and GM paid him a million bucks for the car and his silence. Some guys have all the luck.
The nice thing that modern bullets have done for recoil sensitive people is to make smaller, more recoil friendly calibers more effective but some animals still require a big hole...perhaps just not quite as big as they did before some of our better designed bullets came along.
Dogleg, just check the EE. It's hard to find a gun for sale in there that has even been shot at all. If you find one with a box of ammo through it, chances are it will be available for new-retail price, rather than 1.5x or 2x new retail like the rest of the ads are asking. I said the guns came up for sale...I never said they were cheap!
You're welcome!
By the way, the 200mpg carburetor was nice while I had it, but I've since switched over to the system that burns water...much nicer, and now I'm "green".
You're welcome!
By the way, the 200mpg carburetor was nice while I had it, but I've since switched over to the system that burns water...much nicer, and now I'm "green".
Ardent
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North America is addicted to the bear minimum in rifle chamberings, still not sure why as everything else is usually supersized- houses, vehicles, meals, waste lines. You're never at a disadvantage with more power, there seems an automatic presumption more power means less accurate, which of course is total hogwash. If anything I'll get closer to the mark with the rifle that drifts and drops less.
bearkilr
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I think the reason for that is people somehow think you're a better hunter if you can do it with the bare minimum, another reason archery is only popular in North America. "If we handicap ourselves, we'll be looked upon as a better hunter."
In the minds of many, more power means:
1) Over kill (whatever that is)
2) Wasting meat
3) Less accuracy
4) Poor hunter
and
(5) Small #####
Low recoil rifles definitely have their place, especially when lightweight being shot prone but for those that shoot the bigger stuff well, I can't see the harm.
Well actually, it is pretty common knowledge that smaller cartridges are more accurate. Size of cartridge doesn't always equate to less wind drift and drop either.
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